Is this the same Elizabeth Warren who supports the following policies?

Draconian economic sanctions on Iran

Drone warfare (including kill list)

Pro-Israel expansionist policies

Anti-Palestinian policies (including opposition to statehood)

Balance budget for the US (including austerity)

Sounds like an Obama Faux Democrat, aka lesser evil.

Why are the Democrats still selling the “we need a majority” in the Senate bullshit. Will Warren be the 60th vote? No. Do Democrats vote en bloc like Republicans? No. Will the house go to the Democrats? No. Warren has some good points and good for her if she gets elected but don’t feed us this shit anymore. We (all us hopey changey voters) had 58 votes and the house and got nothing.

This is “critical” to CNN’s ratings and that is all. Tired of Kabuki and voting third party all the way.

My mother always said, “A journey of 1,000 miles begins with a trip to the bathroom. Everybody pee before we leave.”

I think there is a good chance the dimocrats will re-take the house. Not that that will necessarily make a difference. Republicans know how to obstruct the government even when they are the minority party. Actually, ESPECIALLY when they are the minority party. Dimocrats can’t walk and chew gum at the same time.

Jill Stein could have run for the Mass. Senate seat since it is about the only one in Massachusetts she hasn’t run for previously and lost.

Oh right, she probably has a better at shot at president.

Yes,look at the picture,she has Pelosi on her left & Steny Hoyer on her right.The Picture speaks a thousand words.But remember also,she is a member of the DNC…

Anyone willing to cuddle up between Pelosi & Hoyer,Corporations best friends…well you can bet nothing much will change.

If the Democrats take back the House they will be Blue and some Purple and still vote how their Corporate sponsors tell them.

Hey Holey who is this tbog guy and why is he bringing up Jill Stein? I thought your comment was about EW.

Do me the courtesy of not responding to me and I’ll refuse to waste time pointing out the willful ignorance you display by shilling for Obama,Inc and the uniparty duopoly.

Refer to my reply @ 8.

I don’t understand people who can’t See The Difference between Warren and Brown. But, there’s other things I don’t understand either.
HBB…I find your comments self serving, not engaging, and non-informative I can’t think for the life of me why you’re even trying to engage with others on this site.
All attitude does not a platform or strategy make, and I don’t appreciate your “handle” either. You can’t possibly think that by being insulting that you are going to change anyone’s mind, to your way of thinking.
I think that some of the people who comment here are not in touch with the outer world. Living a circle life on the threads is perhaps not the wisest choice. But, YMMV.

Indeed. Organizing democrats is like herding cats.

You don’t know who TBogg is?
Really?
Reality and truth also baffles some brains. Apparently.
You are guys are just too much

Long time no see. You OK with the likely election results??

Refer to Holey’s @8

Careful comrade. tboggs got the keys to Gitmo.

Drones, Demi, drones

That wasn’t responding to you was it? Precious little diff b/t a D and an R these days.

Every business needs an office mgr./bookkeeper and sensible official scorer. The Senate of the United States is no different. That, to me, is the best thing one can say about Elizabeth Warren. And, after the election dust settles, she could lead on more bank oversight, more collection actions on the financial front, etc. I will repeat my one note johnny shit: ” there will be no peace until there is justice for the people who were ripped off by Wall Street. ” People, left, right or up and down have very long memories when it comes to having their money stolen by corps., especially investment banks and the big 5 lending institutions. They have not forgotten, nor should they, the debacle of the last decade. Elizabeth Warren may be able to arbitrate this chasm. Mr. Brown would magnify this problem by willfully ignoring it. We haven’t forgotten and or forgiven those louts. Keeping your powder dry is not nearly the same as surrender.

Maybe demi should check out the facts I posted which were enumerated at counterpunch.org. Some people are so slavishly committed to their beliefs that they won’t accept facts when they’re presented to them. I fail to see the difference between the Kabuki actors that pass for politicians. They vote their feelings rather than their principles and get fooled again and again.

18% undecided (Globe) …how is that possible? I can’t imagine how so many people could be unaware of the day/night difference here.

Come on! Offering faint praise for one of the few candidates that comes anywhere close to my ideal for integrity representing the 99% — Warren is a heckofalot more than an “office mgr.” You went on to moderately contradict that ridiculous intro, but I think she’s one of the few bright spots in the whole political picture and she’s potentially presidential material. Elizabeth Warren is a far better candidate than Mitt Romney. She has the facts at her fingertips, empathy in her heart, and she is honest. Look how in such a short time, she has taken to local canvassing like a pro by addressing her constituents’ concerns, and she is cool under personal attack during a debate.

All pols worth their salt know voter services are the quickest way to show you care. Even if you’re a voter in the opposition party, this always works, and adds that home and hearth felling sentimentalists love. As for Warren doing something meaningful, well, that remains to be seen. She’ll have no seniority and we’ll have to use ” off the radar ” media to score political points and impact the Senate. I’m not betting that happens easily when you see who’ll be charge of the Senate’s agenda. Just sayin. Keepin’ the books is cool, anyway.

So who are you voting for?

And we are all sure your third party is gonna wrap it up by ten on elections night. Who is it BTW?

I just got through listening to the Warren-Brown debate on NPR. I’ll let others sort out the facts from fiction. But I have to say that David Gregory is beyond doubt the worst asshole that ever moderated an alleged “debate”. He needs to go get a real job. Did anyone else hear it? His incompetence is really sickening.

Sorry to break the horn off of your glass menagerie unicorn.

Martha Coakley, the opponent of Scott Brown in the special election, would have been the 60th vote.

I will go to my grave believing the Democrats did not want a sixty vote Caucus. They opposed better candidates than she and then abandoned her.

I don’t think Warren is a good campaigner either.

IMO, Republican obstructionism is a very convenient excuse.

Also, I don’t believe that Democrats are worse at obstructionism than Republicans are. If I thought for five minutes that the Republicans were the smarter Party, I would have registered Republican.

I believe Democrats, including Obama, hit exactly what they aim at more than they would like us to wake up to.

No, she will lose.

But voting for her is the very best shot we have at stopping the run of the Democratic Party to the right.

Maybe they are voting their true principles and fooling us about what their true principles are.

I don’t find much difference, aside from some differences on wedge issues, between a necons, neolibs and Mitch McConnell.

Scott Brown is slick and cleverly dishonest. He is personally well-liked, including by people in his delegation, such as Kerry and Frank. And local media adores and protects him at every possible opportunity, in part, no doubt, because of his wife and, in part, because local media leans decidedly right.

The Koch brothers and the RNC support him, and Republican Party stars (such as they are)come to Massachusetts to campaign for him.

One of the dishonest things he has done in both elections is to bill himself as independent. His first ads after Ted Kennedy died began with a speech by JFK. The word “Republican” appeared nowhere.

His first ads this time around were by Massachusetts Democrats.

With people fed up by gridlock, that may have a lot of appeal.

I don’t think Warrren has refuted Brown’s allegedly independent status, even though it is relatively easy to refute. I have no idea why.

She has not run a great campaign, IMO. She has done better than Coakley, but the Coakley v. Brown campaign was an out and out nightmare.

You’re right on every point IMO.

Warren was especially lousy in the important debate last night. In her defense however, she was pitted against two loud and obnoxious men, one of them pretending to be a “moderator”.

Brown was allowed to interrupt,by sheer unbridled pretty-boy testosterone, every point she tried to make. In one instance, she asked for a chance to rebuttal a lie Brown threw (this debate was prefaced as a no-rule, run like a Meet the Press civil discussion) and Gregory screamed “NO! You had your chance to make your point!”

At another instance of Brown testifying on his absolute bi-partisanship 50-50 Senatorial performance, he said “Thank God there’s a man like me in there to protect our country”. How the hell does Warren respond to such arrogance without coming out “a bitch”? That would have taken a lot more experience at campaigning than Warren has.

The preface Gregory gave for this “civil discussion” was that it will be strictly a focus on the needs and issues of the country. But for the first 20 to 25 minutes (over 1/3 of the hour) he ran on and on with the charge against Warren of “lying” about a Native American heritage, which she has already responded to clearly and at great length in the press. There just ain’t any more that can be said on this no-issue-here-for-the-country.

And so went Brown’s main focus point–he’s a 50-50 non-partisan even-handed super cowboy kind of independent guy we need just by his sheer natural superiority on all issues. We need to thank God for him.

…and another thing. (Sorry, but I’m wound up.) Gregory asked Brown very specifically whether he will, if all goes his way, support Mitch McConnell for whatever. Brown ducked the question by being in the middle of one of his interruptions and promised to answer that question as soon as he finished making his present point. Gregory did push it again but Brown insisted on his answer. Gregory let him go and subsequently NEVER made sure Brown answered the question on McConnell, which he did not.

As bad as Brown was as a human being, his performance as a politician was superb, as expected. Warren was fine as a human being, stunk as a politician. But in the end, I completely blame David Gregory for this travesty.

Reading comprehension a problem? It seems that you are the one denying the evidence and reality. This is the last time I will address your stupidity.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with someone of your diminished intellect. Kindly refrain from responding to my comments.

Have pity on the boggy Tbogg. He really doesn’t like voting for the lesser evil. Misery loves company. It makes him so mad that he’ll attack anyone who thinks they don’t have to.

George Carlin.

Impossible for me to pity someone who’s actively working to elect people whose policies are the antithesis of my principles. Not a fan of the authoritarian mindset.