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President Obama has a modest lead over Mitt Romney in two new national polls. The Reuters/Ipsos poll found Obama with a six point lead, while the Quinnipiac poll found Obama with a small three point lead. From Reuters:
Four months before the November 6 election, Obama leads Romney among registered voters 49 percent to 43 percent. In June, Obama held a slim 1-point lead over the former Massachusetts governor.
Obama’s improved standing was fueled in part by a slight rise in optimism about the future, with the number of Americans who think the country is on the wrong track dropping 5 percentage points to 58 percent.
The Quinnipiac poll found 46 percent support for Obama and 43 percent support for Romney. Even though Obama gets horrible marks on his handling of the economy, most are not convinced Romney would do any better. From Qunnipiac:
American voters disapprove 55 – 40 percent of the way Obama is handling the economy, but split 45 – 46 percent on whether Obama or Romney would do a better job on the economy. Romney would be better for their own economic future, 47 percent say, while 44 percent pick Obama. By a 50 – 44 percent margin, voters have an unfavorable opinion of Obama’s plans for the economy, compared to 46 – 40 percent unfavorable for Romney.
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Voters say 56 – 41 percent Obama cares about their needs, compared to the 50 – 42 percent who say Romney does not care. By 79 – 16 percent registered voters say Obama is likeable compared to the 65 – 27 percent who say that about Romney.
These two polls both slightly contradict the Washington Post poll two days ago which found the race completely tied at 47 percent each. Overall, though, the average of all the national polls has remained remarkably consistent: Obama continues to lead, but only by a very small margin.
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What’s the score on fundraising?
Thanks Jon. You know I can’t get by a day without my usual “poll fix”.
BUt the electoral college still seems to indicate that the only things that will matter will be FL, VA, OH, and WI.
If Obama can sweep the floor with that liar, tax evader, corporate raider and pillager Romney, we’re stuck with him for another four years.
I’ll second that question eCAHN. (And the implication therein contained.)
As an aside … the word, “modest”, and Barack Obama are rarely seen on the same page, let alone in the same sentence.
DW
I ask it on every poll thread I’m around for.
Funny how I never get an answer.
Yeah, funny, that.
I’ve been noticing, over time, the roaring silence, eCAHN.
Your questions (and many of mine) simply get ignored.
But then, ya know what they say, I’m certain.
“First, ya get …”
Keep on asking.
DW
The point in asking the Qs is precisely that they don’t get answered.
The silence speaks volumes.
Ditto on book salons.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/candidate.php?id=N00009638
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/index.php
BTW, I’ve noticed a lot more talk here about being polite than about the substance of the issues.
Thanks for the links.
The first one, which shows only O, is dated 5/31.
The second one does not have a date, at least I couldn’t find one, seems to be a lot older given the candidates shown.
Is that the usual lag that these data are aggregated & published? I’ve seen more timely reports, I think right after the month is finished.
This link was on the 7/9 Roundup re June fundraising.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/romney-campaign-says-it-raised-106-million-in-june/2012/07/09/gJQAt0grXW_blog.html?wprss=rss_politics
The bad news just keeps on comin’.
Piece on HuffPo yesterday or Monday showed that Mitt outraised Zero by $35 mil for the month of June.
Thanks. That’s the kind of headline I remember seeing.
Do you know if opensecrets is the only site that keeps a running total?
Here’s your answer. The Corporate Puppets = 100%; The 99% Candidate = 0%, but you knew that already.
Don’t know of any other site that tracks this, but guessing any site would need to wait till the info was download-able from FEC.
I’m using it as an indicator of who PTB have decided will be next prez.
Yes.
Precisely.
DW
I took a look at opensecrets website. I’d have to spend a lot of time figuring out what is what, and I couldn’t find dates on a several of the comparison tables I found. I’m hoping someone has already figured this out.
‘Twould seem that there is a slight, very slight, disagreement as to which of the PTB is doing the deciderating … but it is likely a further kabuki, and indicative of but a wee wrangle, eCAHN.
One imagines that the real (BIG) money is on Obama for he can do the most damage, on many “fronts”, not least of which is the “social contract” which the PRB wish to make completely null and void.
YMMV.
DW
I understand that there are multiple PTBs. The amount they contribute is a measure of how much they think O can do for them or R can do against them or vice versa for the other side.
My read is that PTB backers of O are disappointed in his ham-handed way of figuring out how to piss off everyonet. They did give him an impossible job: go against your base to reward us but maintain them enough to vote for you.
R will do everything his PTB backers want him to do without any excuses. And he’ll be glad to do for O’s former backers. He’ll garner a large part of voters who haven’t noticed the Republican party has changed, and he is throwing red meat, not crumbs, to the nutcases at the extreme to make sure they show up to vote.
Why Progressives keep losing? we think the game has rules. It does not.
Obama care = Romney Care
Obama likes wars = Romney likes wars
Obama works for the 1% = Romney is the 1%
Obama loves sending jobs out the USA = Romney sending jobs out the USA
We must admire the work of the elites here. “they give USA citizens the illusion of a choice”
What is probably going to have to happen to change the game.
10 or more Progressives are going to have to campaign like they are Tea Party Candidates, and once elected become Liberals. “this is how the game is played”
If this happens, the entire USA politcal machine will be shaken, the idea of Progressives using deception to conquer the elites deceptive practices would get everyone attention.
As long as Progressives and Liberals keep playing by the so call rules, we will lose! and keep losing!
Obama always knew he was a Republican, and his mission was to execute Republican crap.
Obama knows he is more GOP than FDR, we progressives need to face this reality.
PS who cares what the Corp Media thinks? No One!! seen the latest poll, USA News Media at an all time low.
eCAHN and DW, awfully chatty today.
We all agree that until we get “None of the Above” on the ballot, it really doesn’t matter who wins. It’s mostly an academic issue to us peons.
Who said, “If voting mattered, they wouldn’t let us do it”.????
I’m trying to turn a hugely depressing elections into a game.
Did you look at the FEC site? They have summaries that are pretty basic, don’t know, if you want details, whether their reports or queries are more or less usable than opensecrets. This will at least be a good month to check the timing, since it seems the campaigns publish their numbers about a week after end of month, and both sites still have 5/31 data. Much easier to wait a couple of weeks than add up numbers based on media reports!:)
For Jon Walker this is The Most Important Election® in history.
I’m not saying the data don’t exist. I’m looking for a site where it’s been predigested so I don’t need to muck about in the source data.
Ah, so you see the big buckeroos riding the Romney-horse?
Well, I find your considerations to be stellar exercises in putting together evidence that most folks seem oblivious about except as they count how their favorite is “doing”, no deeper consideration of the “meaning” being … evident.
Hugely depressing and likely tragic … either way, this erection season, boding ill and unpleasant days ahead …
I’m with you, eCAHN, that the more ridiculous we may show all of the nail-biting, hand-wringing, and hair-tearing hoopla and partisan caterwauling to be … well, the more the horror of it may be intelligibly addressed … one hopes.
Keep asking the questions that nobody will answer.
Let me try one.
It was announced today, that CBS News had interviewed Jill Stein, Green Party candidate for President of the United States of America, at which time Stein announced her choice for Vice President, Cheri Honkala.
Since the mainstream media has, apparently, decided to interview at least one alternative candidate, is it possible that FireDogLake, a self-described “progressive blog” might, and I stress that word, “might”, also consider doing something … um … kind of “like” that?
Let the silence commence.
;~DW
Oh goody another poll. What a blessing!
It’s possible that the corp(ulent) networks are worried about low & very low viewer turnout for the Con(vention)s and especially for The Debates. Oops, sorry for not leading with a nitro-pill-under-the-tongue alert.
They may be setting their stages and ‘suggesting’ from now on for the TwoParties to allow The Other(s) onto The Debate Shows. Win-Win: the networks get eyes, and the TwoParties get windfall ungodly campaign fun(d)s for advertising per Citizens United’s victory, most of which goes to the networks.
If you aren’t interested in polls, fine. Don’t read them. No one is forcing you to be here.
There certainly have been diaries about Stein.
If I see a decent link to the interview, I’ll put up a story myself. But the implication that somehow this topic is not permitted is just BS. There is nothing stopping you or anyone else from writing a story on any candidate. MyFDL is open.
And no one here appreciates the snide comments questioning their integrity. If you don’t treat them with respect, why should they respond to accusatory questions? If you don’t like the place, no one is forcing you to stay.
I’m done defending people’s rudeness.
“Who said, ‘If voting mattered, they wouldn’t let us do it’.????”
The wise Emma Goldman.
MyFDL diary today re Jill Stein VP selection
Link in MyFDL diary to transcript of CBS interview
thanks. I’ll take a look a bit later.
Having a modest amount of Lead in his system might explain Obysmal’s decision making.
Not a healthy situation for all concerned.
Scarecrow, my question is not about whether “decent interviews” done by other “sources” be put “up”.
It is that FDL should DO the interviews.
As the preeminent progressive blog, FDL HAS the “standing” to do that.
I would hope that it has the means … and the interest.
I thank you for noticing my question, which was, from the very first time I asked it, months ago, respectful, and NOT rude.
If you think that I have behaved in a “rude” fashion, then I apologize, to you.
However, when first I broached this subject, I was told, by a member of the “staff” … that I should go and “do it”, myself.
Now, if “rude” is the issue, then, you and I have already discussed what appears, to me, to be a double standard.
You need NEVER defend me … unless you are honestly moved to do so.
On the other hand, I have consistently stated, that I have found you to be fair, reasonable and willing to admit to error if you have reason to do so.
Again, I apologize to you …personally, Scarecrow, if I have been rude or unreasonable in your eyes … that was not, nor has ever been, my intent.
However,I do feel and consider that best practice MUST include the willingness to bring information of moment to those, who have repeatedly, on many threads, politely asked for such official coverage …for I am not alone in my request for broader and “official” reporting, here, at FDL, about alternative candidates and alternative views of what this presidential campaign COULD present to the people … by way of options and, as well, explorations of the means and methods of challenging the stranglehold which the “two” (many of us consider them them to actually be but ONE, united in support of the 1%) “legacy” political parties have over the electoral “process” … owned, as it is, by money and vested interests, including the MICC, among others.
I thank you for considering my concerns and your willingness to further the coverage of alternative possibilities.
David W. Bartoo
thanks for the response. First, as far as I know, you do not owe me any apology. Second, I also would like to see coverage of other candidates, though it’s not clear how much we could do. I will, however, look at the links someone kindly provided and see what I can do.
Finally, though this is not the thread to discuss this further — there will be others — one issue I wonder about is how people will react to coverage of other candidates and/or their advocates. The country is deeply divided and many people are more angry than I have seen in my lifetime. Can we still have such conversations? I view the recent Book Salon as one of those fora for testing that question.
The recent guests may or may not have been aligned with my preferences, but I found their willingness to come here a good sign. So it would be unfortunate if those guests got the impression that if they come here, they’ll be treated rudely. What would they think, or tell others, for example, if one of our commenters, within a few minutes after the end of the discussion openly asks if it’s now safe to insult them, and then another commenter obliges. And the commenters brag about offending the guests a couple days later. I’m wondering why anyone would bother to come here. So when that happens, I’m not sure we can maintain a place for considering other views, unless they align with those who think it’s okay to be openly rude.
We can continue this later . . .
As I suspect you may know, Scarecrow, I agree with you … completely.
You and I have long been urging reasonable and rational, as well as respectful, debate.
My sense is that thoughtful example and considered courtesy, if consistently expected and encouraged throughout the community, will prevail.
FDL has a well-deserved reputation of best practice. A thoughtful, specific, and ongoing discussion around the very issues you have raised, this evening, will go a long ways toward ensuring that such a reputation, and the trust which engenders it, shall prevail.
Again, Scarecrow, you are a most able and gracious ambassador of best practice and responsible human interaction. It is a true privilege, and a great pleasure, always, to converse with you.
Namaste
DW