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With the general election campaign now unofficially started a string of new national polls shows a close race between President Obama and Mitt Romney. A CBS News/NYT poll has the race completely tied. From CBS News:
Mr. Obama and Romney each received support from 46 percent of registered voters when asked who they would vote for if the election were held today. In March, a CBS News/New York Times survey found that Mr. Obama held a slight advantage over Romney of 47 percent to 44 percent.
While some polls like the Gallup daily tracking poll have Romney up by several points and others like Pew Research have Obama leading by a few points, the average of all the recent polling has the race neck and neck. The Real Clear Politics average has Obama leading by just 1.6 points at this moment, eight months out from the election.
There are also signs that Romney’s historically bad favorablity numbers have improved somewhat as a result of the GOP primary ending, but Romney still remains a rather unliked and uninspiring nominee.
The fact that a rather unimpressive candidate is within striking distance of unseating an incumbent president should highlight Obama’s single biggest problem: after more than three years the economy is still awful.
If anyone had told me in late 2008 that official unemployment would still be over 8 percent in 2012, I would have found such a prediction too shocking and horrible to believe. As a society we have become almost numb to bad economic news, as if we’ve grown to accept the poor state of the economy. But the reality is the economy is still horrible for too many people, and it has been horrible during Obama’s entire tenure. There is no good way to spin failing on the voter’s top priority.
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Cenk Uygur on the Young Turks last night had Huff Po’s pollster on to explain how the race can be a dead heat with high personal approval ratings of Obama and terrible negatives for Romney. Essentially Obama’s mediocre (at best) handling of the economy is coming back as a vote of no confidence from the masses. Even though people don’t like Romney, personally, they are not impressed with Obama’s presidency
The end result of “kicking the can down the road” by ratifying the same crooks who led to the Greenspan Recession: Geithner, Summers, Rubin and Bernanke manufacturing Obama’s monetary policy.
I think a lot of readers of FDL will be well aware of Obama’s shortcomings as a real/pretend/imagined progressive president. That isn’t the same as being willing to vote for Romney.
My online poll here shows some nuance with regard to Obama. My take is that most of the people who will end up voting for him are basically voting against the conservative movement which is about the only thing anyone informed and sane can do. And that of course has always been Obama’s one unassailable political asset. The alternative so much worse.
Yes, Obama’s neoliberal economic policies have proved unpopular with the “electorate” consequently they may well give Romney and the party that caused the financial calamity another shot. Obama will likely pay the price for being a friend of Wall Street and the American people will pay the price for voting for the Republican prostitutes of Wall Street.
So far as I can tell, the unemployment numbers are running as the MOTU has determined they should. Now corporations will continue to cut the wages of US workers. It’s all planned.
In 1998, I worked as a contractor in the electronics industry for almost 3x the rate I can obtain today. If you factor in that the price of my services was a bit high at that point, the difference from the median to median is still over 2X.
There you have it. Obama can/will do nothing, same as mittens.
Another day, same old kabuki.
I’m voting in the French presidential election on Saturday. There are 10 candidates that run the gamut of the political spectrum. In the U.S. there is little choice, Americans typically vote for the “lesser of two evils.” With choices like that there is little likelihood the U.S. can move forward. Trapped in a Groundhog day scenario.
A “close race” will be the meme for the rest of the season because:
1) the media likes the ‘storyline’ for ratings and ad revenues;
2) the R’s like it because it is easier to steal a close election, which is why they push so hard on various voter disenfranchisement schemes.
May the Flying Spaghetti Monster bless us all.
And you are right alanx. But isn’t that sad that we really have no one who is inspiring to vote for but instead have to make our decision based on the outcome of a horrible alternative? What a country!!
You got it Bluetoe2. Take us to France with you.
Actually casting my vote in the U.S.. Wish I were going to France.
The perception that there are alternatives is the flipping problem. Voting for Obama as a vote against the supposed alternative is a vote to continue this charade that we’ve been forced to live with for 20 years or more.
No one should vote for Obama in order to vote against Romney.
Electing Obama is voting for a 1%er that is merely holding his thumb in the dike. Electing Romney insures the dike will be swept away. After Romney, the deluge.
Exactly correct. As we learned in 2000, the electoral college is where the action is, and from a recent Politico (via AP) article, Obama is at 242 not counting North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, Virginia, or 5 other states.
Romney has to almost run the table in the contested states to win, and with a sub 40% likability rating that’s gonna be very hard to do.
Ann Romney, Please Shut the Fuck Up (not for the faint of heart).
Between extending the Bush tax cuts and selling us all out with his bs healthcare ‘reform,’ I’m not so sure he’s just holding his thumb in the dike.
Then there’s this and this (among so much else).
I know what your saying Knox…and this is an ongoing conversation in my home daily……….but the alternative is so scary to me…and yet I don’t know what the hell to expect if Obama does get a second term. and what bothers me so much is that the people I do know who are Republican voters are working so hard at trying to get me and others who feel as I do to stay home and not cast a vote.
I think what you say is correct. But Obama should be hung out to (almost) dry until the night before the election. Make him buy our votes for a change.
Hollande strikes me as the kind of guy who will be forced to do the Bankster’s will, just as the socialist President of Spain was, and the so-called Greek premier was, too. He is basically DLC material. These guys all go to the middle, which is the political equivalent of no-man’s land, where the banksters have a free fire range on any leftist leader who wanders out there.
I value my vote, have political science background and agree with most all comments above. I’ll be voting Green Party from Jill Stein all the way down the ballot. Vote my conscience not my fear this time.
I really don’t care which one of these two wins. We both survived 8 years of Bush and now more than 3 years of Obama serving Bush’s 3rd time. We can survive Romney, too. The important thing is not ever to buy into the rhetorical bullshit that tricks too many into letting this charade continue.
RIGHT ON!
Said it months ago, Obama is not a lock, even though he was acting like it.
This piece could have been more effective if the author weren’t more interested in making him- or herself an issue (over the top language and imagery like that takes away from the real point).
Regarding economics, which is the primary factor on voters minds, how exactly will President Obama be “better” than Mitt Romney? Which candidate would receive the greatest push back from citizens when destruction of social security, medicare, and other common assets are implemented?
I agree completely. I still cannot believe how stupid I was to buy into this sideshow in the first place. We keep telling ourselves that we can get through 4 years of Romney especially if the House or Senate is controlled by the Dems and they have any spine . But that remains to be seen also.
Obama would jump for joy if he gets dumped. It will save him four years of pretending to care; he can jump right on the gravy train.
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(I bet he and Bill Clinton meet up at boring sex orgies like in Kubrick’s “Eyes Wide Shut.”)
Hollande during an interview with a German publication said he will block the austerity measures dreamed up by the European 1%ers. Despite this he’s not my choice for the 1st round.
What exactly has President Obama done to stop the “scary” Republican agenda?
Well, I’m not surprised but that shows either the polls are all biased, there’s a bunch of dumb people answering polls, or this can be traced to not doing what is needed, that is, pushing and forcing liberal polices through the senate and house. It actually hurts when you do things like sign the NDAA and say of it’s Bill of Rights breaking provisions “I won’t use them!” Gee, violating our rights like a conservative would do is actually something liberals AND libertarians won’t like! Whooda thunk it! Thus, they refuse to vote for you. And then deliberately NOT following Keynesian economic policies to the extent they should be followed, which liberals are also smart enough to know NEEDS to be done, also gets liberals upset. Whooda thunk it? And pretty much insisting single payer universal healthcare is a bunch of junk that can be ignored because our Heritage Foundation policies will work with both Dems and Republicans? That was okay even though it’s not very good compared to where we should be and it’s from the freekin’ ultra-conservative Heritage Foundation AND we already knew Republicans wouldn’t work with Obama on anything regardless as to if it came from them or not originally. Sure, that would work! Except it didn’t and whooda thunk it? Oh, and saying “liberals will come around” when some of us actually have spines and are willing to make politicians finally pay for their wrong doings? Whooda thunk that would loose support for Obama? Whooda thunk it?
Who would? Any smart person who knows where our country should be, what we should be doing and basically how to get there. The problem with Obama is not so much that the opposition is handing them the election on a platter, which, in normal times they would be, but that he’s dramatically walked away from the true liberal base, or one time base, of the democratic party. (Democrats en masse are pretty much where Republicans were in the 1950s now politically.) Sure he’s reasonable on many things but his administration can’t figure out that the kowtowing to conservatives is actually killing his support among those who use to support democrats automatically and further alienating the fringe group of libertarians who could at least agree with democrats on social issues most of the time.
Who would have thought this? I would. I do. And he better take action, not just words, to correct all his social and economic missteps and mistakes pronto or his election is doomed and so, as a nation, are we.
It’s a rich peoples agenda not D or R. No need to differentiate b/t D’s and R’s anymore.
Obama is the best friend the Republicans have. They were down on the ropes with the potential of prosecution of members of the previous administration. Then Obama, spouting the non-sense of “bipartisanship”, breathed life back into the monster. Now he seems surprised that the monster is coming after him again.
Sometimes I think Obama doesn’t want to be re-elected, but he can’t just come out and say it, so he’s going to throw the election.
So maybe the reason Obama feigned anger at the Secret Service sex scandal was because he wasn’t invited.
The citizens have been indoctrinated to accept the diluting of SS and medicare. We will all eat less and die sooner.
There is another issue that really has not been talked about – this administration looks incompetent. Be prepared for blasts that hit:
1. Government investments that have failed – read – Solyndra, et. al.
2. Crazy programs like fast and furious where guns were handed to the Mexican gangs
3. Unfilled promises, like Guantanamo
4. Debt
5. The GSA scandal where administration officials plead the fifth
6. The Secret Service shenanigans
7. Lack of Senate action
8. Costs related to the health care bill
9. Waffling on taxes – including the upcoming changes to the tax law at the end f this year.
10. Gas prices and lack of action on the oil companies
11. Failure of jobs programs, and lack of “shovel ready” projects.
That on top of the president’s inability to take responsibility for anything will make for a very dreary and long campaign. I see this as a nasty campaign and the President will be characterized to not look like a leader
While I share the disappointment of many here with much of Obama’s first term, to say there is no difference between him and a Romney administration is ridiculous.
Just the possible upcoming appointments to the SCOTUS over the next four years debunk that train of thought.
It saddens me beyond belief to see firedoglake promote this Kabuki theater of pseudo democracy.
While apparently following the line of the corporate media and REFUSING to inform its readers of the alternatives.
Sure ROCKY ANDERSON exists and is trying to gain traction but if the “progressive” world refuses to help him then of course he will remain invisible.
ROCKY ANDERSON FOR PRESIDENT
Dare I say- le sigh?
Nothing but then he has had help from that worthless gang called the Democrats. However, my thoughts are that Obama may not completely disassemble the Social Security and Medicare System. Paul Ryan unleashed could have a whole lot of us building Chicken Coops to live in.
really? Sotomayer.
Obama and Romney Effectively Identical
The U.S. public has been so indoctrinated for the last 30 years by right wing meme’s they are now willing to accept deprivation and suffering as nothing more than the inevitable consequence of the human condition. The U.S. public will rue the day they surrendered their minds to corrupt politicians and a complicit media.
Oh thew Supreme Court Meme.
The corporate selection of 2000 and the Supreme Courts direct complicity in that coup de tat shows that we already lost the Supreme Court a long time ago.
Man- I guess self styled “progressives” deserve all they get with president Oily-Bomber.
His innocent victims do not.
Not only does the President not take responsiblity for anything, but he also didn’t make others responsible or accountable for anything (financial industry CEO’s which brought about the recession with their fraudulent practices, or war crimes). Actually I will amend that…he does take action against “whistleblowers”.
Your right…Obama does not deserve a second term. And he could very well not get it .
Will we ever get rid of that worthless Amy Klobucher?????
I looked into Mr. Anderson and felt Jill Stein was a better bet and close enough to a true progressive candidate to get behind. Anderson isn’t on enough ballots so while I hope he gets traction that is why I am throwing in with Stein and the Green Party. Generally agree with you though.
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1) the media likes the ‘storyline’ for ratings and ad revenues;’
No shit. Recall just who owns the ‘media’ ABC=disney, NBC=GE+Comcast, CBS=Sumner Redstone through National Amusements, its parent, Viacom. Fox=duh, Cnn=duh+tea party, TIME-WARNER. Then there is radio=clear channel…
They care, because it is a source of income and outcome..they are the message delivery for the republicans.
The country is justifiably pissed, there would never have been a ‘teaparty’ if there had been a wall street perp walk within 6 months of the inaugural. The republicans would have been tied in knots and deflected from inventing death panels, which were a total media driven fallacy.
‘If anyone had told me in late 2008 that official unemployment would still be over 8 percent in 2012, I would have found such a prediction too shocking and horrible to believe.’
Hemorrhaging jobs at the rate we were at the beginning, plus a dedicated antithetical congress, plus the economic team that was universally denounced, correctly, by those of us who are regulars to this site.
How the fuck do you think we would have been any lower than where we are at the moment?
I find that statement as troubling as the possibilities we face in seven months.
It is the worst choice I have yet to face. My first vote was McGovern. To vote for the president is voting for what he has done, and not done, to contribute in any way to a republican/romney victory is treasonous….
Yes, a victory for 0 is a republican victory as well.
I still don’t know how I’ll vote
the way i see it…Mittens would be better,because at least we would have an opposition to fight against…mho
This. Elections are full employment opportunities for political reporters filing content-free news, daily. Coming up: will (random doucebag) be picked as VP????!!! Stay tuned!!!!
Obama and the Democrats are doing their best to corrupt themselves out of business.
1. Do you honestly think President Obama would stop Paul Ryan’s agenda in a lame duck second term?
2. Who would receive more push back with talk about impeachment (whether valid or not) if they decided to embrace the Paul Ryan (destroy Social Security) plan – Obama or Romney? (P.S. If citizens cared about each other, the answer would be both)
To add to that:
Really? Elena Kagan
What is the likelihood that Obama or Romney would replace a current more “liberal” minded judge with a similar political bent? The REAL problem for our country is that BOTH CANDIDATES ARE HORRIBLE FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE U.S.
I know it LOOKS that way. But, NOBODY wants to be a “one-termer”. That is a huge blow to anybody’s ego.
“If citizens cared about each other, the answer would be both”. and therein lies the problem. Americans by and large have been molded into an uncaring, unfeeling mob that could give a rats ass about their fellow citizens. The “individual” is worshiped and the “collective” is reviled.
Dude, if you are ONLY gonna look a the “failures”, everybody looks bad.
How about the accomplishments?????
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Can I get back to you on that???
BSb…..I’m still waiting for Jill’s teeshirts, bumper stickers and koozies. Don’t forget.
Agree and nowhere is this more evident than people with an Ivy League education. Both Clintons and O and the rest of the PTB. They teach “the masses are asses” and really don’t value your life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness.
Smart money is “random douchebag” = Marco Rubio.
I’m hoping for a beer Stein to use at the next beer summit at the White House.
Good points.
A vistory for either of these is a LOSS for the 99%. THAT is certain.
Hearing you on that — actually, what my point was is that we should expect a rather blistering attack on the basis of competence. When there are too many events or issues that call Obama’s executive style into question, it erodes confidence in his abilities. There comes atipping point where the late night comics control the conversation. We may be seeing that tipping point right ow. Obama has been untouched during the republican primary season – that free ride is over and the contest will be much tough.
Now THAT is clever.
I have “invented” a new name for what I am politically.
I am an “anti-republicrat.”
OTOH: I could care less.
For me, it’s all Kabuki Show, and the pants wetting over the thought of “OH NOES not Mittens… it’ll be WORSE… be AFRAID” is just too much (no offense intended, truly). I can’t get “upset.”
It’s RMoney v DMoney, and the 1%’ll win.
If anyone really believes that Obummer’ll nominate a “progressive” to the SCOTUS, all I have to say is: keep clapping louder for Tinkerbell. Kagan or Alito, it’s all the same to me. They are bought off by the 1%, and they do the bidding of the 1%. It doesn’t matter.
When the time comes, I will pull the lever for a third party candidate, and I appreciate the slim, but helpful, info about those choices, particularly Rocky Anderson & Jill Stein.
And no, that’s NOT “throwing away my vote” or “causing Mittens to win.” It’s a good idea. No diff bet RMoney & DMoney from where I sit.
Kabuki Show Time, folks….
I see the section of our future history books titled The Anti-Republicrats and the Age of the Second Elightenment. It began in Texas during the second Great Depression when a former Democratic Party Official……
Second that. Vote your conscience not your fear 2012.
No, I get you completeley and agre 100% BUT must INTERJECT my humor as that is my job here.
It is soo regrettable that Obama never larned how to BE president. and, indeed, one can describe that as incompetence on his part and that of his advisors. IMO, he kept “thinking” he could deal with the GOP leadership and “take the high road”. There is no fucking “high road” with those despicable bastards. Then he let the American people down with Gitmo, giving the banksters a “pardon”, keeping up many Bush policies and then adding extra-judicial assasinations to the list.
I’m afraid that history will not be kind to Obama.
WOW!
Yes, and quite frankly, if Obomber gets “elected” this time (which is VERY feasible, bc I think the 1% really want their hired hand to “win” in 2012… don’t change horses, yadda yadda), he’s gonna have no real reason to do *anything* even remotely “progressive” during his second term.
In other words: no “excuse” of having to “run” again, so no reason to even marginally apppear “progressive” to keep the authoritarian trad-Dem voters appeased.
Obama in a second term? Just as bad or worse than Mittens. Why would Obomba do anything that his purported “constituents” from the 99% want during a 2d term??? His brown nose is gonna be even further up the collective asses of the 1% during his 2d term just to double-dog *ensure* he gets that magnificent compensation for life from his newly found 1% BFFs.
Case closed. Done dealio.
No matter what excuses people try to make, it is NOT “throwing away your vote” as some contend if you don’t vote for Obama (or Romney for that matter). It’s called voting your conscience. If more people actually voted their conscience maybe we WOULD see change in this country. If they instead vote “the lesser of two evils”, expect to see the status quo and more of the same for the next four years and beyond. I’m seriously looking at Jill Stein now.
“Vote your conscience not your fear 2012.”
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THAT’S THE BUMPER STICKER!!!!!! You so inspsire me.
That’s much better than the one I was degisning that said, “Fuck ‘em both.”
Although, THAT could be the subtitle, in small print, of course. With a warning for children.
Warning for children; you haven’t spent much time around children recently. :)
bingo …the end…you got it
Sermon on the Mount,went out with bussles
Yes, and I grow ever more sick & tired of good citizens of real conscience (truly) who feel compelled to continue to “yell” at people who voted for Nadar any of the times that he ran, esp the 2000 election. IF citizens felt that Nadar was the way to vote, THEN they did the right thing.
Frankly, I have some issues with Nadar, but I have voted for him, myself, albeit (truthfully) not in 2000.
That said, it’s not the “fault” of the Nadar campaign that Gore “lost” to Bush in 2000. Give me a break. It was bloodless coup d’etat by the PTB that “made” Gore “lose” to Bush, as then “sanctified” by a bought-off SCOTUS. Spare me the incessant & ongoing whinging by some good citizens about the Nadar campaigns.
Grow a pair and realize that the only way to get any kind of “message” across (paltry & pathetic that it is) is by voting third party.
People who wish to abstain from voting are entitled to that choice, frankly, but IMO it does nada/zip/bupkiss in terms of potential “message sending.”
Will this do much of anything in terms of making things better for the 99%??? Nah. I live in reality. But at least I don’t feel AFRAID and then vote for a 1% sell-out like Obomba believing in fairy tales that he’s somehow “better than” RMoney. Please. Spare me that b.s. (again: no offense intended; just stating how I feel. Others may choose to differ).
Have to say…that was pretty good.
I am slowly coming around to your way of thinking. Of course, Romney has helped. He’s such a totally undesirable candidate for president.
OTOH, he’s gonna very likely have a billion$$ to spend between the super-PAC’s and his own money. And, as undesirable as Romney is, money is a real “field leveler”.
I think, and you know how that pains me, the question is gonna BE how many former Obama supporters vote third party or not at all.
Welcome aboard (may be premature) and tell a friend.
Thank you! I’m here every day.
Be sure to tip your waitress.
And may I thank you as well for that clarification. I mentioned my intentions, to vote accordingly, on another liberal blog and was accused of voting “for Romney” and of being a “troll”. ME…a troll? I said I had resigned as democratic party precinct chair because I could not support Obama. Wow, what an uprising from the Obamabots.
A “Jill Stein Stein”…..that just breaks me up. I have a friend in “ASI” “advertising speality items”, I gotta call him.
NCG: we go way back. Stop being afraid.
You can do it!!!!!
There will be plenty of former Obomba supporters who either won’t vote at all or who’ll vote third party.
So what?
I truly see no diff between RMoney & DMoney. They’re all working the same side of the street. The same old shit will happen no matter what.
That said, I still predict that Obomba will “win” bc that’s who the 1% want to “win.” From the perspective of the 1%, what’s not to LOVE with Obummer at the putative “helm” (albeit, not really)???
That’s why I think the Kabuki Show entitled “Republican Primary” has been such a pathetically ridiculous Klown Kar. The PTB don’t really want a truly “serious” contender running against their boy, Obama (take that any way you like). Makes it that much easier to “convince” a clearly brainwashed populace that, hey presto!!!! even in the worst of economic times, whaddaya know??? That KenyanSochulistMarxistNaziBirfer Obama “won” again! Whoddaguessed?
From the perspective of our fascist media, who’s the better “choice” for POTUS?? Why the horrid “n” word, of course. Great for ratings, doncha know??
Exactly. Because if you don’t vote, then the media and pundits attribute all kinds of reasons for the lack of votes. Based upon that “message” in recent years, it’s because candidates weren’t conservative enough. It would be a joke if it weren’t so sad. Vote your conscience.
Exactly. If you don’t vote, the fascist propoganda will say it’s because the candidates weren’t conservative enough.
Then your “vote” IS truly wasted… bc the wrong meaning is attributed to it. Good point.
It looks like Obama may get voted out. Maybe that is what he wants. Don’t know. But he doesn’t act like he wants the job. The economy is in the shitter and he doesn’t have a clue what to do about it. Anyone who allows twenty million people unemployed for four years and does nothing about it, doesn’t deserve to be reflected. I don’t thnk he understands anything about the economy. Anyone who thinks the government is just like a household shows how ignorant he is. Anyone who appoints a cat food commission to cut the legacy programs he inherited is not a democrat. He even believes we are going bust, more ignorance.
Romney can win easily if he tacks to the center. People will forget all about the crazy shit.
After 83 comments, lots of them very astute, analytical, insightful, and few damned hilarious, let’s suppose, for a moment, that Obama’s goal, forced upon him by Michelle, was simply to get his daughters enrolled at a good private school in DC and, shall we say, live REALLY close by with a dependable chaffeur-driven limo service??????
That would explain a lot, wouldn’t it?????????
The “mob” worships the individual over the collective?
That’s some seriously convoluted logic right there…
True, he did not “larn” to be POTUS, but then he never had any practice. It is one thing to run a neophyte, but a professor???
Agreed. It is the lesser of two bad candidates.
Maybe Obama is not so great but Romney will be a disaster for the country, especially if the Ryan budget get passed. Deflation is what we will get.
The supreme court could go super conservative for 40 years!
Besides these national polls do not mean much, the election is winner take all in each state so to know what is happening we need a poll in each state.
That is probably the best scenario, unless enough people wake up and vote 3rd party in sufficient numbers to elect Jill Stein (who has the best chance of any 3rd party), or another 3rd party candidate. But that is highly unlikely.
I hate to agree, but Obama might indeed be a Conservative by most of our standards, but by the standards or lack thereof of the Tea Party brown-shirts he’s a flaming Communist. We have to realize that no matter whom we get to vote for in the Pres. race these days is going to be some flavor of a Corporatist no matter who it is. It takes so much $$ to run for Emperor anymore only the Oligarchs get to be King makers these days. Neither candidate has anyone excited and that goes to Romney’s advantage. In a close election a Dem. any Dem. cannot win so if they’re tied at this juncture Romney will win and so will his party . The end of Medicare, SSI Unemployment etc. Welcome to living in Mexico right ahead.
I will vote for neither Obama nor Rmoney. Who is the Pirate Party candidate?
Vote your conscience. Jill Stein will not win. Rocky Anderson will not win. Stewart Alexander will not win. But if the three of them get enough votes, it might come to the attention of people in general that there is something better than The Two Romneys out there, and trying to guess which Romney would be “worse” is an exercise in insanity. America is dying, and both those assholes want to kill it. Obanka deserves no validation as the “lesser” evil.
Indeed, if someone put a gun to my head and made me vote for one of the two, I’d probably vote for Romney, on the theory it *might* actually spur the Dems to do something Dem-like, and that Obanka deserves the humiliation of being booted off the stage, ASAP.
But, absent the gun, I’m doing exactly what my username urges.
PLease,please go here and see this. “Keyboard warning!!!!!!!” LOL.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-launches-more-realistic-i-have-big-ideas-but,27953/
Arrrrrrgh! That be Captain Jack Sparrow. Not his real name. He was born Arthur Caputin Rosenzweig-Goldheimer.
So, that’s where you get your news? No wonder you’re a step ahead of most of us.
Here’s the ThirdWay poll http://thirdway.org/publications/512
They are obviously chasing the elusive independent and conservative votes.
To hell with you fringies. We all know how this works.
You’ll come around with the fear card, scare you into voting “strategically” – against Romney for Obama as alanx tells us, that it’s “the only thing anyone informed and sane can do.” with his unscientific poll.
No voting your conscience. :)
Vote your conscience.
The Democratic boosters have a whole buffet of platitudes and thought stopping cliches they dig up every 2, 4, or 8 years.
Even if a third party doesn’t win, if Obama loses it will deliver a good lesson that defection doesn’t always pay off. As a long term strategy we still win. Short term palliatives maintain backstabbing incumbents.
Maybe someone could explain what is meant by “pushing back” if President Mitt and Paul *Ayn Rand* Ryan were to kill treasured common assets? Is this like believing it possible to “force Obama” to do something, that I sometimes read? If Romney/Ryan do their worse, it’d be too fkn late for push back. And do you guys seriously think ‘Muricans will abandon the sofa and hit the streets, or something?