This man is a pig.

Ooops. I see that I’ve cast a major aspersion on pigs. I understand pigs are smart and Cain is stupid.

Cain is also completely incompetent.

Just another block of evidence for the kinds of low-life scum Republicans have become.
yes, I did use the 4-letter word. And many of my own family are of the R persuasion. I don’t pretend to understand it, beyond simple brain-washing and the utter failure of our traditional media. Most of them are not stupid, but they believe this shit.
Why, I …wait, I’m repeating myself.

The poll also found that 53 percent of Republicans or Republican leaning independents are inclined to believe the sexual harassment charges against Cain are not true.

Numbers from Moderate voters and Dems also what percent are Republicans? I have no trouble finding people who think well maybe one story is not true but 3, 4? and they got cash to keep quiet thats kind of hard to go Cognitive Dissonance and space on that fact.

Cain still managed to get the top spot in Gallup’s national poll, but his time at the top of the polls may be coming to an end very soon.

Jon, is this wishful thinking on your part? I haven’t seen any evidence to support this assertion. What does it matter how many women accuse him, one or one hundred? If the R-sheep don’t believe the first two women, what makes you think that additional accusations will have an increased adverse effect? I would argue that more accusations will have the opposite effect as it is likely to be viewed as piling on by the non-believers.

None of my family…(used to have an uncle) but numerous friends; some who have been very active Rs. Neither scum nor stupid, so very hard to understand.

I bet there’s hush $$$ flowing in rivers thru his past. If a man does this, he’s usually done it for as long as he can get away with it.
It’s all part and parcel of the “man/super­ior woman/infe­rior junk that’s gotten so out of control with religion over the centuries.­…everywh­ere. It’s a domination tactic. A minor form of rape

Why do your R relatives believe the sexual harassment charges aren’t true? One accuser, maybe, 2 unlikely, 3 nearly impossible, and now a 4th comes public? With details much more gross than a pubic hair on a Coke can. What side were they on with Bill’s OO blow job? Monica was willing, so they only thing they could get him on was bad taste and lying under oath. Cain’s behavior, from what is public so far, is a next door neighbor to rape.

The one today, however, is telling her own truth…harder to ignore, I think.

I think Rush thinks by standing by Cain and Clarence before him he gets the GOP Cred with African American voters? I seem to recall Rush being outraged about Bill and Monica.

Got that right. Where there’s 4, there’s more.

And I guess I owe ya a drink since you got to the rape word before I did. Martini’s my cocktail of the evening. Will you join me?

Surprised by the h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t word? Of course he has a very rancid record when it comes to women….

From what I read, THIS instance just might be considered over the line even by hardline GOP. Before he said something that made thee women “uncomfortable”. This instance alleged MUCH more. Hand up the skirt. “Pay to play”.

OTOH, it’s hard to undersstand what some republicans believe is “inappropriate behavior” by a republican.

What Sharon Bialek accused Herman Cain of:
When they saw each other in the evening, Bialek said he put his hand on her leg, “reached for [her] genitals” and pushed her head toward his crotch.
When Bialek objected, Cain asked her: “You want a job, right?”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/07/1034060/-Associated-Press:-Herman-Cain-made-bold-advance-on-Sharon-Bialek-?via=blog_1#comments

Another (and still anonymous) accuser of Herman Cain says the story Sharon Bialek told reporters today in New York reminds her of her own episode with Cain.

From the Times:

In an interview after Ms. Bialek’s news conference, Joel P. Bennett, a lawyer for one of Mr. Cain’s anonymous accusers, said that Ms. Bialek’s claims were “very similar” in nature to the incident that occurred between his client and Mr. Cain.</blockquote>

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/updates/1689?ref=fpblg

My bold the stories match up the GOP can keep backing Cain all they want Cain runs against Obama with this on his record the GOP might as well go home election day.

Exactly…diapers et al seem to be OK….;)

Rush’s advice on marriage would make for some good snark now. :)

Cain is an anybody but Romney temporary parking space.

For rational thinkers I would agree. However, the optimal word hear is “believe”. Believing does not in any way involve the need for facts or reasoning. The longer we keep this up, the stronger it is likely to make him with the believers/anyone but Romney crowd.

We do need to focus on the guy’s total lack of qualifications for the office of POTUS. Not knowing that China is a nuclear power should automatically disqualify you from holding the office.

I have heard a bit of that tripe….How dare he open that drugged up mouth?

if Cain is the best Republicans can do, what a sad commentary on their choices!!

I think his parking pass has expired.

Sexual harassment charges don’t matter to GOP voters. Their attitude is that the women were asking for it. Generally speaking, when they talk about taking “their country back” they mean from the militant lesbians and their sexual harassment charges as well as, you know, the usual suspects.

How this squares with their support of Cain I’ll never understand, but I think the odious Ann Coulter gave us a hint when she talked about “our blacks are better than their blacks.”

Romney is the best they can do. They just don’t like him.

They think it’s “liberal media lies” because Faux and Limbaugh tell them it is. They are complete authoritarians and that has nothing to do with intelligence, it’s the WAY they think.
Plus this is the crew that wants women to bear the children of their fathers and rapists.

this is how far it’s gone:
Federal Government’s Terrorism Database Excludes Anti-Choice Terrorism

So far………The future looks very bleak for women’s rights.

Boy, that ann coulter…she just breaks me up!!!

And D choices are better?

Sure. Your place or mine?

Odious, of course. I am quite sure she has never heard/listened to herself. What in the world does better than mean? Guess she has never heard of created equal….

Uh????

Actually, yes….

I haven’t seen any “militant lesbians” for a long time. If you know where they are, will you tell me?

Lets not forget that Cain had no idea China already had nuclear weapons since the 50′s? 60′s ? and Cain thought China did not have them yet.
Cain is in Sarah Palin stupid territory and I don’t think he will be the GOP nominee however it is worth noting that Mitt is still tied to this guy a stupid sexual harasser.
If the level of popularity Mitt has is so low that he ties with a guy who does not know China has had nukes for decades and thinks ” pushed her head toward his crotch. When Bialek objected, Cain asked her: “You want a job, right?”” is a proper way to screen people for a job then you have to wonder if the GOP don’t like Mitt just how will he attract independents?
What does Mitt offer them?

I’d have to say Ann Coulter most likely HAS NEVER listened to herself.

I’m no lawyer but what Ms. Bialek alleged today seems more than sexual harassment. It sounded to me as if Cain had committed an assault.

D choices are better only if you think that a black trying to screw a couple of blond women is worse than a black trying to screw 99ers.

Can’t blame her….;))

Yes, but to Republicans competence is of little if any import, as long as they spout the Republican religious dogma.

No doubt there is STILL a large “not Romney” confliguration. However, Romney is still leading, albeit by a small margin, the “not any of these OTHER knuckleheaded morons” contingengy.

Except one may be seriously stupid and the other apparently is not. Not an equivalency imho.

I think choosing the lesser evil is still choosing evil Obama is the lesser of two evils and no I won’t be voting for him. I figure if Cain, Mitt etc get elected America will revolt all the sooner.
But yes Cain, Mitt etc are worse than O on that point I must disagree. Still Theirs smells bad rotten food and bugs crawl out of it smells bad rotten food either way I’m not eating or voting for either of them.

Guess one has to reluctantly give her credit for THAT. :-)

I’m interested in output, not input.

Full steam ahead. And yet scandals which are too timely by half do raise questions about scandal-mongers.

There are better, more sound ways to undo Cain, but probably nothing better than what we’re hearing now if the goal is to get rid of Cain sooner rather than later.

Wonder if the R smell among the contenders is strong enough to allow Huntsman to edge in on the side….He seems smart, maybe even sane.

UNfofrtunately, he can;t seem to break out of his 1% basement.

I have mixed feelings about Cain. If we lay off him, and IF the GOP is peckerhead enough to nominate him, then, mid-campaign, we could get stuff like “China’s attempt to get nuclear weapons is a problem.” Which would merit a little more attention from the media, since it would be coming from the nominee.

On the other hand, Cain and the rest of the Goat Rodeo, are making Obama look smart and statesmanlike, and that REALLY pisses me off.

Well, if you’re going to be All That Way,
I know your are a smart person so you can google Militant Lesbian sites.
There’s a sister site here at FDL, Pam’s, that you can go to, and then surf from there.
You okay, babe?

Mitt is still leading but if he wasn’t Mormon if he had not flipped flopped on every issue the GOP cares about Gays, Healthcare, Abortion he would be leading among Independent voters and Maybe Dems too. By trying to win the GOP Primary Mitt is losing the Presidential election.
By being Mormon by trying flip flopping on core GOP issues hoping the GOP base never finds out Mitt has proven he’s stupid, lacks a spine and will lie and say what ever he has to to get elected.
In other words Mitt is Obama without the brains and without the trust that voters had in Obama that he was a Lefty and meant what he said.
Mitt is Obama after O betrayed us on healthcare and the GOP faithful know this.
Mitt gets nominated the Fundies stay home.

I guess that sane thing is really a problem….

Forgot about him Obama lite he could threaten O more than Mitt in a general election so of course he can’t win the GOP Primary but he would be a good VP for Cain or Michelle. 2 Mormons on the ticket would scare Fundies.

why do you think he’s stupid?

he seems to be playing his role as sperler quite admirably.

notice how he attacks when attacked, he doesn’t go on defense, this is a smart tactic.

if the puppet masters are trying to create a spoiler against mutt cain is doing very nicely, as much as you hear “we won’t elect a mormon” I will tell you that is simply not the case, the people who “wouldn’t elect a mormon” would jump at the opportunity if it meant they could get the scary black man out of office so mutt has a real good chance of beating obama

I personally believe cain has no chance, could be wrong about that, see my posts below

I don’t see cain threatening o more then mitt though, cain isn’t going to get the democratic vote so those who would vote for zero ain’t going to move to cain in masses

mutt on the other hand will get the anti black man voter from both the repukes and the democrats

I believe mutt has a far better chance then cain

I have been wrong before though, maybe I am underestimating the prejudice against mormons?

why do you think he’s stupid?

uzie, uzie, uzbiekiestan.

Or whatever the real quote was.

To cite but one example.

Oh, and there was another one about preventing China from getting nukes.

But who’s keeping track.

not so much the r’s believe the charges aren’t true, more they believe they would be doing the same thing in cain’s position

I do not pretend to understand the R mind. But I do think that all clean & pressed & proper has very limited appeal. Cf Kennedy…so privileged, but warm, sense of humor, etc. Mitt really is the decades old “little old man on the wedding cake.”

uniformed and unprepared I think is more likely then stupid, I think he’s playing his role and plans on doing as little work as possible going in as sperler

The 50% who are women?

Geez, perris.

Only a stupid person would be that unprepped and uninformed.

The election is a year a way….Can you imagine how much ink/conversation there is to come betwn now and then….Im already worn out, not bored, just overloaded. How did we get to a world with this sort of candidates? They make Goldwater look scintillating and McGovern look elegant…or whatever. Who could have dreamed of Cain or Bach or Newt….And where are the Democrats?

I like to believe if they are r the are usually self destructive

And give me nostalgia for Richard Nixon.

You can only imagine how difficult it is for that to happen.

I really can….I just could not go quite that far…

How did we get to a world with this sort of candidates?

the corporate ownership and consolidation of media, the raging success they had with morons like reagan and bush leads them to believe they do not want a man with their own brain

which is another reason I believe they will undermine the mutt

they will come up with some scandal, for instance they will find out he does indeed drink coffee

or does indeed have a bunch of wives or has close friends with a bunch of wives

or they will haul out the mormon belief that Christ is the first brother of satan

or some real scandal that we don’t know about yet…I believe they will undermine mutt if he’s their candidate

nixon would be drummed out of the republican party right now, as a matter of fact, he would be on obama’s board of trusted advisors

Or maybe they want Karl Rove to switch parties….I guess anything is possible.

O Perris, That makes me weep. You win…..;)

Prolly not paying enuff attention…there’s so much….
Now why isn’t THIS being given any attention ( you gave me the opening, demi)

Net Neutrality Is Under Attack: Email Your Senators Before Tuesday’s Vote

Hand in hand with the police state
It seems all Congress does these days is try to take people’s right away from us. That’s what they
re up there for.

Another winner.

On second thought, no way.

Nixon was behind some environmental legislation, even though it was after rivers were catching fire.

O would get out the marshmallows.

That might not be the best criterion to use, considering the orators in the WH since 2001 to this day. It applies to most around them as well. I think their problem has to do with an excess of multitasking.

The flubs they speak are often delightful. Not so, the rest of what they do. I liked Bush’s Grecians and O’s corpsemen best of all.

Let’s put food on our children.

Oh wait. That would break the budget.

Stick a fork in him, he’s done.

999 has morphed into 69.

Hmmmm, the 1990s? What was one of the biggest news reports of the 1990s, one that happened apparently just before these white women working at the NRA were sexually harassed by Herman Cain, one that consumed hours and hours, days and days, months and months of news coverage, one involving a black man and a white woman?

Oh, you know, that little trial of O.J. Simpson.

Last week, I realized something was missing from all the news reports on the Herman Cain sex scandal: the racial identity of the women who filed complaints against him. I suspected then that they were probably all white women.

I’m liberal. I’m progressive. I don’t have any concern over consensual interracial, or inter-religious, or same-sex, relationships between freedom-loving American citizens, those enjoying equality under our U.S. Constitution, but I realized that where Republicans are concerned, especially those in the Deep South, certain relationships are still viewed as being morally and racially prohibited.

This made me wonder what effect learning that Herman Cain in the 1990s had been sexually harassing white women would have on his Republican presidential aspirations among Republican voters. But I also wondered what the O.J. Simpson murder trial, and acquittal, in the mid-1990s may have had on what happened between Herman Cain and these white women, with some filing sexual harassment complaints against him, while reportedly others didn’t.

The main question I see facing Republican voters, especially among southern white males (some of whom I know) who’ve put “Honkies for Herman” bumper stickers on their vehicles, is whether their support for Cain’s 9-9-9 Flat Tax plan outweighs any prejudice they might feel toward a black man sexually harassing white women.

that’s been said before, any number of times, he’s not only still here he’s gained after every supposed “his 15 minutes are over”

you can stick a fork in him if you like but he ain’t done that’s for sure

We’ll see. That was brutal testimony today.

Yes. Wasn’t that when ketchup counted as a vegetable?

I think Clinton was the last one mostly unafflicted with brainfarts when speaking. The only exception would be the meaning of “is.” Otherwise gaffes weren’t his trademark.

Again with Driftglass, commenting on the republican debates:

“This is what it looks like when you take a shit in zero gravity.”

:o)

Cain is also completely incompetent.

When has that ever disqualified any Republican?

Whether the charges are true or not is beside the point. This is a hit job by Rove, who understands that if the Thugs run a ‘Nigger’ they won’t get all the votes they need in the South to get the Senate. If this had been a white thug we wouldn’t hear a whisper of it. Plus IOKYAR on everything.

And give me nostalgia for Richard Nixon.

I was listening to someone speak on the radio on the need to reduce the deficit and I thought for a moment it was a clip from Richard Nixon. I didn’t recognize the voice at first. It was Obama. He is Nixon, without the five o’clock shadow.

This just proves how intelligent Republicans are and how firm they are on supporting their bet for presidency. If these allegations were true then the accusers would have gone to court and bring their issue there, the media exposure is supposed to come in second. Some people are just probably afraid that Cain might actually be successful with the candidacy because of his 999 Tax Plan.

Before Cain decided to run for president someone told him one of the perks should he win the Oval office would be the president gets to hand out a bunch of jobs.

Cain immediately decided to run upon hearing this as it would allow him to use his unique job interviewing techniques on an undreamed of scale.

Is that your /s? You sound like the one on Huffpo who is slamming the woman from yesterday for nothing but “hearsay”….He/she hasn’t heard that what hearsay is not is talking about one’s own experience….so much for personal experience….Objection, hearsay. Hysterical.

Cain should put Laura Ingraham on his staff as the mouth going after the accuser; Never forget how mean Laura is.