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President Obama’s overall job approval numbers, while not great, remain decent in the latest Washington Post poll. The poll found that 44 percent approve of his job performance while 46 percent disapprove. While the total level of support remains little changed, the intensity of that support has dropped significantly.
For over a year Obama’s “strongly approve” numbers have been extremely stable, always between 24-30 percent. This newest poll found only 18 percent of voters “strongly approve” of Obama’s job performance. That is a seven point drop since less than a month ago, and by far the lowest level of “strongly approve” since Obama has been in office.
This is another sign that over the last several weeks the President has started to have real trouble with his base. Earlier this week a CNN poll found that the number of people who disapproved of Obama’s job performance because he is “not liberal enough” has doubled since May.
A drop in the intensity of support is unlikely to translate into members of the Democratic base actually voting for the Republican nominee, but it can have other important political ramifications. Lower intensity means fewer volunteers and fewer donations. It also increases the likelihood that the young, infrequent “surge” voters who helped Obama to win the White House in 2008 will be more difficult to turn out in 2012.
Chart Data Source: Washington Post Poll
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The intensity of support does not bode well for an upcoming campaign. Cutting Social Security and Medicare benefits will not exactly reverse the trend.
The President could try standing and fighting for the values and principles he said he believed in during the campaign.
Just a thought.
He only picks fights for the people who worked hardest to elect him.
That would explain the trend line.
Seriously – he’s lucky his numbers are as strong as they are.
He promises that if the donations continue coming in for his reelection he’ll give stirring speeches amounting to nothing. He gives good speech.
We will not doubt hear that his ratings have dropped because we aren’t clapping loudly enough.
Wait until he cuts SS. The trend is going to look like the Mariana Trench, and the Democrats are going to own it.
No one should be donating money to the Democrats to make sure they get the point. A boycott on political donations for the rest of the year.
Intensity means damn little now.
In a year it will.
When you crap on your supporters, you get crappy support.
“Cutting Social Security and Medicare benefits will not exactly reverse the trend.”
But at least he’s tanking the economy with budget-cutting!
I think his people have gamed all that out, and are counting on an expensive advertisement campaign to bring over the suburban centrists. This has all got to be driven by their internal polling. They could be in for a big surprise. He took the suburbs by a considerable margin last time, and it is hard to see where he will squeeze more votes there. The Thug base will turn out in big numbers like it always does; and the Dem base will not turn out for him in anything like the numbers it did in 2008. In my view they are shaving this very close,and if the polls turn really south for him come spring, it will be too late for him to reverse course. It’s already too late.
We might just get get a different candidate. I don’t seem him voluntarily going into a certain loss. If it’s not close in the Spring, he will fold up his tent. He’s not a fighter. We’ve seen that.
That’s not a bug it’s a feature. It is Obama’s plan, to elect a congress who will implement the Right policies.
Oh, his is a fighter. Just not for anything which does not benefit him personally.
The only winning issue he’s got is that the other guy is worse. Given the Gov. Goodhair is the GOP frontrunner, that’s a powerful issue.
Not that it matters much. He’s going to raise $1B for re-election from his Wall St. Buddies. He doesn’t need us.
Boxturtle (Still, maybe if I clap harder…)
Obama betrayed all of those young people who really want to believe in the country and a future. I am at a loss of words on this as I have a nephew who after working his tail off to get his degree in Education (and my brother working his tail off to help him) could not find a teaching job after graduating…he now is working in S China as a teacher and while he wants to return is worried he has no future here!!
I hear Ed Shultz say Obama has a positive message for the country…I am sure Ed is a good guy but come on…Pain, lower standard of living, austerity??? They hope we don’t riot in the streets!! That is darkness not sunlight…
You got that right. Not a penny. And ridicule your friends who do.
Ronald Reagan was more liberal than Obama. So sad.
This is a site where the idealistic Left bends so far one way as to reach and touch the tail end of the reactionary Right Obama haters. I should think today’s poll ought to provide mutual succor.
If Obama has a smidgen of the Harry Truman gene he ought to run against Congress for the next 15 months. Yeah, yeah, I know, the lesser of two evils is still evil, yadda, yadda. However, what else do you have other than just go and tend to your garden, and turn off the TV and PC and just ignore the shit storm around you?
All the money in the world cannot sell an Edsel. Or a Betamax. We are on to Obama’s act now. All the money will not change that
Seems like the Obama Presidency is an office of irrelevancy. So many things he would like to do, but that darn congress won’t cooperate. Funny, I don’t recall Dubya having this problem. If he is not going to use the office then someone else will, unfortunately Democrats will take the blame for all these messes when we haven’t even tried any Democratic policies.
I don’t know how old you are, but I can still remember when Reagan was Governor of CA when I was in college there.
Saying that Reagan was more liberal than Obama is just really some over the top hyperbole, and the facts don’t warrant it.
two guys are being chased by an hungry bear
one guys yells out
“can you run faster than a bear”
the other guy replies
” I don’t have to. I just have to run faster than you”
that’s Obama’s strategy.
Obama finds himself in a hell of his own making. He blew off his base and tried to negotiate with a GOP that has turned into a pack of rabid dingoes. As a result, his administration’s only “accomplishment” is a pig’s breakfast of a health-care bill that made him more enemies than supporters.
He’s finished. The only consolation is that he might kill off the Democratic Party as well, allowing us to start over.
I would associate him with shittier products than the Edsel. New Coke and Miller Draft 64 Lemonade sound about right.
Amnesty, Cut-N-Run in Beirut, upper marginal tax rate of nearly 50%, raised taxes 11 times. That’s Ronnie, to the left of Obama. How is your fact checker?
You mistake us for a group that cares about Obama — He was not my candidate in 2008, and he will not be who I vote for in 2012. I will not waste my vote on a Republican in a donkey suit.
If I find no alternative party candidate attractive, I will write in either Bernie Sanders or John Edwards…
I am in a completely shitty mood this week, so nobody take this personally, but that phrase soft-pedals the depth of our disgust with this shitty preznit. Plus it comments on data not presented in the poll, i.e., the level of support “for the Republican nominee.” Nobody knows wtf that “level of support” is from the poll measuring support for the preznit. So that phrase basically whiffs completely on the significance of the sharp collapse in preznit’s support from his activist base. What it means is, we are for sure not voting for him.
Fuck the Republican, forget about the GOP opponent. We. Are. Not. Gonna. Vote. For. Obama.
Also, forget about the “surge” voters. We. Are. Not. Gonna. Call. Or. Canvass. The. Surge. Voters. For. Preznit.
No offense meant, but really?
Never-ending wars, continued and expanded. Torture/Rendition, oh ya baby. Suspension of habeas cospus at will, well who even knows what that means.
Protecting wall street crimes.
Protecting war criminals.
Repeating the lie, government does not create jobs. And then of course the Reagan, Reagan, Reagan mantra.
Tax cuts and trickle down, maybe they will work in a fictional future, so let’s double down, then triple down, then …
Patriot act. Having the FBI violate the rights of our own citizens. Whistle-blowers taken down like never before.
Anti-immigration on steroids.
The rich are doing better now, then EVER BEFORE.
So seriously, he’s not right of Reagan?
Washington Post Poll enough said.
Both a presidency and a re-election campaign predicated on low-information voters.
How could it possibly have gone wrong?
Won’t be long before Axelrod and Messina begin making cracks
about the Mountain Meadows Massacre.
“I am in a completely shitty mood this week, so nobody take this personally, but that phrase soft-pedals the depth of our disgust with this shitty preznit.”
Shitty mood? Join the club. If America pulls their head out of the sand they will NOT be in a shitty mood. They will be in a WTF, G damn this goddam mofos, thieves and liars mood.
Soft-pedals. Thank you. It’s a gross understatement of the shite storm of disgust at this corporate pawn of a “shitty preznit”.
bush had a 28% concrete base and ruled, obama is out to match that record or beat it.
I think that this President has his supporters wondering what he truly stands for any more, or what he’s thinking.
He’s certainly not driven by polls when he refuses to take a stand on tax increases on corporations and the wealthy.
His positions on human rights issues such as gays and immigration are certainly questionable.
For Presidential elections Democrats always need a large turnout to win. Don’t know that “better than the other guy” is going to be a real motivation.
Finally. Presidential candidates can typically bank on a couple of things. No matter what, they are going to have a base of strong supporters that is typically about 30% of the voters. Same for your opponent. That means that you win the election by getting the largest percentage of the 40% left. Doesn’t that mean that when you lose 1% of your base, you’re now being forced to get 2% of that remaining vote?
Imagine if Hilary decided to quit Secretary of State and run against Obama.
This week’s Marist Poll reflects that very few voters agree with you.
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It was under 8 years of Reagan that the destruction of the middle class started and has continued through Clinton and the Bushes. This whole thing was orchestrated while Reagan took his afternoon naps.
Would you rather have a President screwing his mistress or screwing 99% of the country for his best buds, the 1%ers. ?
“A drop in the intensity of support is unlikely to translate into members of the Democratic base actually voting for the Republican nominee”
If we do not have a strong, progressive Democratic Party fighting the lunatic fringe, we will lose every time. And a strong, progressive, fighting Democratic Party is impossible as long as Barack Obama is President. He has validated everything they’ve set out to do, and neutered those who would resist them.
The question for me is whether the Democrats and the liberals will further ratify Obama’s actions by reelecting him. In my judgment, nothing could be more destructive to the long-term changes I hope to see in my lifetime than the idea that the Democratic Party can betray its supporters and then be rewarded with reelection. Having come to that conclusion, for me it is merely a question of tactics whether it is better to insure Obama’s defeat by voting for a progressive third party, or to do so by voting for the Republican.
According to recent national public opinion polls, from one-half to two-thirds of voters are not being represented by either the white racist Republican fascists or by the Obama Republican Administration. There is a tremendous opening for a progressive peace candidate to run in 2012 and sweep out both the racist Repubicans and the Obama Republicans…
When screwing his mistress we know where is his focus.
This just shows how absolutely sycophantic the Obots are and/or how utterly out of touch with what’s happening in this country the respondents are. Otherwise pollsters are asking the top 1% of Americans how they feel about him.
A drop in the intensity of support is unlikely to translate into members of the Democratic base actually voting for the Republican nominee, but it can have other important political ramifications. Lower intensity means fewer volunteers and fewer donations.
It means that the voters who pay the most attention to and supported Obama the most are more likely to stay home.
There have been very few Presidents that did not have mistresses.
I don’t give a damn who or what they’re bedding, as long as they do the job.
As I grow older and older
Tottering toward the tomb
I find it matters less and less
Who goes to bed with whom.
Dorothy L. Sayers
No need to vote for the Republican. Ever.
Reserving comment on the strategy for building a third party sustainable over the long term (more than one four-year cycle) ….
I love Bernie too, but he is not going to get to the WH, but write him in if it makes you feel good.
Essentially you have reached a point of alienation where there never will be a major party candidate to your liking.
I haz a sad. If only there were an organization to inform people of the impact of governmental policies on there daily lives instead of a bunch of blow-dried infotainment “fluffers-for-access” press release reading stars.
I don’t think Obama has a concrete base. He doesn’t have true believers like the Thugs do. His concrete base is probably Black People, but they are only about 12 percent at most. The rest are fellow travelers.
The textbook definition of insanty. Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Exactly. A friend of mine is fond of asking, “Does Obama really think Goldman Sachs is going to man phonebanks and walk precincts for him next November?”
What’s also going to sink Mr. Post-Partisan President is that millions of young voters have soured not just on him but on politics in general. Some of them won’t show up at the polls for years to come, and I can hardly blame them.
I’d settle for a Democrat. They don’t cut Social Security or Medicare.
If Obama starts getting ponies for poll favouables under 40 percent, it is going to open up windows for other candidates to take a shot at the nomination. Let’s not forget that they are all sharks, and if there is any blood in the water, they will go after it. I can imagine Hilary doing it, for example, and would put on a liberal show to get our vote. No heroes here, but the polls indicate a real opportunity for anyone prepared to take the risk in the spring.
Not defending Raygun, but when compared to Zero …
http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/002224.htm
I was there and can confirm that. He slept a lot. Through Iran-contra, through the Savings and Loan fiasco. The only thing he was awake for was firing ALL the air traffic controllers and maybe the ’84 Rose Bowl.
I’ve voted Republican a long time ago when I didn’t approve of the Democrat running for office — but I’ll never be able to hold my nose long enough to vote for them again, not as long as they have the anti-abortion plank in the platform.
I’ll be taking a long hard look at the Green Party candidate and possibly the Working Families candidate if they actually run one.
I am a New Deal/New Frontier Democrat…and I guess I’m still looking for the next FDR or JFK.
I’d bet Nixon was one.
I am wondering if Stephen Colbert’s campaign might not take off.
People as so fed up with the choices it might take on life as a protest vote, then who knows…
One of the secretarial pool, I’d guess. Of the last 10, I’d bet only Carter was faithful to his wedding vows.
As I said, it’s a question of tactics. I voted for Obama last time. By not voting for him in 2012, I am costing him one net vote. If I were to vote for the Republican, it would cost him two votes, net. If a thousand progressives in a swing state like North Carolina or Florida were to do so, it might be enough to defeat Obama in that state. I would much prefer to vote for somebody for positive reasons, but what I wrote was in response to the idea that it is unlikely that members of the Democratic base will vote for the Republican. I may not do so myself–I probably won’t, since I don’t live in a swing state–but if people perceive that Obama’s defeat is preferable to his reelection, that’s an obvious possibility.
The Obama strategy is “Vote for me – the other guy is worse.” The truth is that this fake Dem president has caused more damage to progressive policies than any Republican could hope to accomplish. I will not vote for him – even if he’s running against a nutcase like Bachmann
There are different levels of support. I’ll find a couple of local elections that need some attention, donate some to Act Blue, certainly Jane will have some candidates worth endorsing. The top spot on my ballot may just remain unchecked. I certainly won’t donate anything to the “O” campaign, or the DCCC or the DSCC. They had the House, a Supermajority in the Senate and the White House. What did they deliver? A warmed over Bob Dole Health Care plan, with new Romney flavored crystals. See, in case anyone missed it, those two guys are Republicans. So the very best they could do was deliver Republican legislation. Swell.
Now, now — I have voted for Republicans in the past and split my ticket, but once they added the anti-abortion plank to the platform they permanently lost my vote.
If nothing else, I will vote to get rid of the incumbents in 2012. Maybe if we keep throwing people out for not representing us, they’ll get the idea that they must listen to us (yeah, I know, what cloud castle am I living in?).
They left out the part of him being a “surrender monkey” and waving the white flag in Beirut.
Contrary to most of the comments here, recent polling is not necessarily catastrophic for Obama. For instance:
“I’d settle for a Democrat. They don’t cut Social Security or Medicare.”
Don’t you mean “as long” as they don’t cut….”
That strategy flunks Political Science 101. Obama is an incumbent, which means the 2012 election is a referendum on his performance, which, quite frankly, has sucked.
I believe Obama will win re-election, mainly due to the pathetically weak republican field. I would hope he would be more concerned with jobs for other people, instead of just his own.
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If I don’t see a leftie candidate on the ballot, I’m just writing in my own name. I will not abstain.
Or, by late October 2012, if we’ve got nothing, then FDL should pick a name we can live with and buy ads on all left-leaning sites to write it in. The “My team is blue” Dems would hate us forever, but who cares? And if you live in a blood red state like me, even more incentive to send a message since the Electoral College makes the Presidential vote even more meaningless.
Knut, I wish it were true. I really do wish it could be possible to launch a viable primary challenge, anytime, “in the spring” or otherwise. But I think it will be too late by “the spring,” and I think it is already too late for at least a few of the early caucuses. Caucuses start in January (maybe even December 2011 if some states go insane trying to be “first”); substantial chunks of delegates will be elected on a Super-Tuesday in February & other one in March. Nobody can wait until March to decide to start a primary challenge. Even a potential primary challenger who starts this month is probably too late to file candidate applications in time for the first caucuses in December or January.
“I’ll be taking a long hard look at the Green Party candidate and possibly the Working Families candidate if they actually run one.”
Actually, since you don’t like Obama and the GOP are a clinically insane cult, whatever way you turn you will have wasted your vote. Terrible options, but this is the best site I’ve seen for people who have essentially chucked it in. I’m about 99% of the way there.
I said exactly what I meant to say. True, bonafide Democrats know that a bright line exists that will never be breeched around Social Security and Medicare. If they do not stand for that, firmly and without hesitation, then there is nothing they will stand for and are no longer Democrats. There are other issues too, hell, we have a twelve step program for everything, but I meant what I wrote.
Prior to Barack Obama, the last two presidents won nationally with these margins:
1992: Bill Clinton (D-Arkansas), 5.56% (unseating George Bush, R-Texas)
1996: Bill Clinton, re-elected, 8.52% (over Bob Dole, R-Kansas)
2000: George W. Bush (R-Texas), –0.52% (Electoral College, over Al Gore, D-Tennessee)
2004: George W. Bush, re-elected, 2.46% (historically the lowest for an incumbent winning re-election, over John Kerry, D-Massachusetts)
In 2008, Barack Obama (D-Illinois) beat John McCain (R-Arizona) by 7.26%. So, in the last two decades the Democrats have won nationally by no less than 5.56% while the Republicans have won the popular vote by no greater than 2.46%. Does this really tell us the Rs have a stronger base?
To get to 2.46%, the 2012 R nominee will have to reverse the previous election’s shift of 9.72%. How? By reducing Obama’s support among Caucasians, African-Americans, and Hispanics by about 10 percent each.
It would help the Republicans if Caucasians took their 55% support for McCain and give a 2-to-1 level for the 2012 R nominee. African-Americans should drop down from mid- to upper- 90s% to the mid- to upper-80s% for Obama. And Hispanics would really be a help to the Rs if they drop from 67% for Obama down to the low- to mid-50s%.
What will be the national margin of the winning 2012 R nominee? And what would be a special something, in quality, would enable the winning R to earn the victory?
Oh it is, high opponent negatives may translate into votes. I don’t know if it’s going to drive enthusiasm for doing all the work that a campaign requires, however.
Since Obama has strengthened The Bush Doctrine why can’t he use SIGNING STATEMENTS to get things done? Is that the only thing that he doesn’t believe in that Bush did?
Do you suggest registering your displeasure by voting for a candidate you are displeased with, thereby encouraging said candidate to continue advancing policies you disagree with?
“It was under 8 years of Reagan that the destruction of the middle class started and has continued through Clinton and the Bushes. This whole thing was orchestrated while Reagan took his afternoon naps…”
And Oh Bummer is trying to accelerate a finish to Raygun’s start, n’est-ce pas?
Yes. Patty Murray, are you paying attention? Debbie Wasserman-Schultz & Chris Van Hollen, are your lurkers getting this down?
No, just vote your conscience, so you can live with yourself, but the majority of voters will ALWAYS vote for those that has been decided and pre-digested for them. The system is rigged.
Whenever I hear a politician intone that “America’s best days are ahead” I want to gag.
Please be careful of polls that use the word “liberal” in the questions. Most people, when they hear the word “liberal” think of Michael Moore or Cindy Sheehan or Code Pink, and can’t identify with them. They feel they are extreme activists and just not normal people. Even though liberal policies poll quite well. “Do you think the Government has a role in insuring American children get hot meals?” “Do you think old people should choose between medicine for illnesses or cat food to eat?” “Do you think Americans should be powerless before Multinational corporations who demand work for pennies per hour 24/7 with no benefits or slow agonizing starvation?” See, the answer to all these things are painfully obvious that nearly everyone supports. The funny thing is, the correct and popular answer to each of these questions is a liberal position. People support the position but reject the term.
The majority of those who can vote, do not do so. Nothing to vote for. If my local store only sells sour milk and moldy bread, I’m staying home and watching “Poo Flinger Island” or “Smell My Wife,” like the rest of themurrikanpeeple.
Being “more desirable” candidate than Rick Perry is gonna be a bar Obama can cdlear in stret shoes. IF, and that’s big IF, Romney can pull in ALL the repubtilian votes , TEA Party and othweise, Obama is gonna have a tough time. He IS gonna use the campaign slogan “I’m better than the alternative” and I don;t know if that will deliver h iim another term.
How about a complete end to contributions to the Democratic Party unless or until they actually craft and support a platform that really benefits their constituents?
The reasons I don’t think Obama has chosen the “executive order” path is 1) He doesn;t have the balls and B) He’s picking the path of least resistance. I think he’s afraid of BOehner and McConnell and of b eing impeached.
Funny meeting you here. I think, and I have facts to prove that, just not real handy, that lots of peopel vote “against” rather than “for”.
Michigan’s election code took away the write-in-your-own-name option unless you file an affidavit of write-in candidacy no later than the Friday before the election.
The new law is a real pain in the ass because I often wrote in disgraced public figures when I found all of the candidates on the ballot unpalatable. I can still do so, but by law those votes won’t be counted–which was the very point of writing in outrageous names.
The “term” liberal? I AM A LIBERAL!!!!!
The Democratic Party died when it became ashamed of itself and started selling the other side’s message. Now, no one, especially the guy in the Oval Office, has a clue what the Democratic Party stands for or who it stands with. The last things it has to sell out are Social Security and Medicare and it can’t wait to start.
I AM A LIBERAL!! I stand for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Labor, Peace, Education, Infrastructure, Research, Civil Liberties, Human Rights, the Environment, ……
OT–That’s a great quote, I never saw that before. She’s one of my favorite writers.
Where do you come down on the “designated hioter”?
I with you on all the other things.
“hitter”, sorry
Settle down, I am a liberal too. But republicans have successfully made “liberal” a bad word. More specifically, I blame this guy.
He’s afraid of being what he perceived himself to be as a child: different, an outsider, a nobody. He wants desperately to be “somebody”, to be in with the in-crowd. He’d be pathetic if his insecurities weren’t helping to flush this country down the toilet.
You musta got an A in psychology.
I’ll vote Donald Duck before I vote for O. Liar, traitor. Let Perry win, let Romney win (FUCK). Bad Times IS a’comin’ no matter who is screwing us, so bring on the iron fist, bloodbath, torture and terror. Am I being obtuse?
Obviously Obama needs to tell more and bigger lies.
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Back to watching football.
And be sure to send the DNC, DSCC, DCCC, OFA or whatever fools write to you a nice “note” in return to explain your non-action.
I just did.
Mr. the Cup is Half Full
You know like I know, Obama poll numbers are shaky at best.
First candidates with 9.2% un-employment don’t get re-elected
Second? How many people are lying to Gallup?
See? Old Obama is a minority, how many are saying one thing to Gallup and plan on voting for Mitt Romney?
Gallup Polls, don’t track Minority candidates very well.
Obama path to the White House in 2012, will go thru Florida, NC, Colorado, Penn, Ohio, with OBAMA loving and embracing the idea of cutting social security? this will create Hurricanes for Obama 2012 campaigns. Obama will lose Florida if Social Security is bothered, FACT
Old Gold? Obama is not winning in 2012, why are we wasting time discussing this
This is just foolish talk,
The Masters of the Universe, are done with OBAMA!
Obama is a black candidate that love Reagan more than FDR? not good
Does Michelle Obama want to become Mrs. Clarence Thomas? probably not
Michelle Obama is going to have something to say about Black Reagan 2012 campaign. “Cornel West, Tavis Smiley, John Conyers, and other black leaders I here plan on throwing Obama under the bus, under the train, and off the ship.
Obama is also a black candidate with 9.2% un-employment? “House Dems and Senate Dems up for re-election in 2012 are already running away from OBAMA, Obama will lose total control of the Dem party.
Obama does not get it!!! New Dems coming to DC in 2012 will HATE OBAMA, this is going to be UNIQUE.
Old Gold? can a black candidate shit on his liberal base and win? No
Obama is the worse politcal figure in USA history, FOR LOL
Obama can run around the WH 7 times
Obama can run to the middle, the center
Obama can run to Wall Street
The only people that would ever vote for OBAMA would be Hippies, Liberals, and Progressives.
Old GOld? I feel bad for OBAMA, he is going to get slaughtered in 2012, no candidate can survive ruthless attacks from the Left and Right
If Obama cuts SS, Medicare, and Medicade, Michelle Obama knows she will have to move her family out of the USA.
Why are we talking polls here? Who cares, this guy is a tyrant and a war criminal. He’s either a stark fraud, or a Manchurian president; in either case, he must be destroyed politically and taken out with extreme prejudice.
If we can hold Obama to one term, that will at least send the message that his criminality and lack of support for holding Wall Street accountable for fraud has consequences.
“The only people that would ever vote for OBAMA would be Hippies, Liberals, and Progressives.”
No, not really. The ONLY folks who will vote for him in 2012 are pretty hard-core, it only matters that it is Blue, Dems. And if enough of them are bummed out come Nov 2012, that won’t be very many of the total voters.
Those folks likely aren’t hippies, aren’t largely really hard-core liberals, nor are they progressives — they are partisans. For them, it as about the Dem Party; NOT about progressive, or liberal, ideas or principles or any such.
EVERYBODY else is done w/ Warbama!
2012 will be decided by Independents and Independent Repubs — all those folks who are life-long repubs, but have enough sense, still, to not vote for bagger crazies! (The very same folks that voted for O in 2008; for many of the Repubs it bveing the first time EVER they voted for a Dem!)
Oh, and add in too No Way in Hell O Again Dems. If O trashes SS, etc., the numbers in that will just grow and grow.
The Sheeple Repbus will turn out, and vote for whomever is the Red candidate. They are even more profoundly foolish then the foolish baggers they follow!!
I’m w/ Freidman in what he said up in Aspen in July: what would be best is for a 3rd party candidate to come along — he (or she! ;-) would EASILY blow both O and Baggers Nut Jobs right out of the water!!
best of all, it might be a fatal blow to both parties — which could then be rebuilt to be more “old school” conservative/centrist and a party “of the (not top 1%) people” …
I know, I’m dreaming — more likely f’n halicunating, sadly!
Obama is on his way to surpassing Reagan as Worst – President – Ever.
The Progressive Caucus in the House has put together a jobs program plan. Gee, I can’t wait for Obama and the MSM to completely ignore this. Yet idiots like Paul Ryan get unbelievable press coverage, even though he’s booed off the stage at every townhall meeting.
that’s the way i feel too. let’s get this over with, so we can start anew. end the torture now, just get it over with.