The Democratic polling firm Democracy Corps is out with a new comprehensive polling report looking at the state of the economy and impact on politics.
The good news for Democrats is that the poll found Republicans have squandered most of the advantage they had in 2010. Since January the percentage of Americans who disapprove of House Republicans job performance has surged from 48 to 59 percent. Democrats now also lead Republicans in the generic ballot 46 to 45.
The really bad news for the Obama administration though is that Americans don’t think the economy is improving. They in fact feel their own and their family’s economic problems have gotten much worse lately.
Since the spring of 2009, two-thirds of the country have rated the state of the economy’ negatively. That is an unchanging backdrop to life in America right now. What is going on?
Try reality. Our tracking on people‘s own and immediate family experience shows a stable 35 percent who have lost a job in the last year and shows a worsening situation on health care, foreclosure, and particularly reduced wages and benefits. That is particularly true for white non-college and working class voters.
The polling falling mirrors what we are also seeing in the official data with dropping home prices and bad job reports.
As far as regular voters are concerned there is no recovery and according to Democracy Corps, Democrats need to acknowledge this reality to win in 2012. President Obama needs to stop taking credit for “fixing the problem” simply because most people don’t think it has been fixed.
The White House metaphor of getting the car out of the ditch on to level ground and not giving the car back to the guys who drove it into the ditch was unconvincing, too light-hearted, backward looking, and out-of-touch. People thought they were still in the ditch.
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This report shows that Democrats can win in 2012 if they focus on the new tough economic realities, offer a way to a better future, and show how different the choices are that progressives and conservatives will make. Paradoxically, Democrats must forget the past and the financial crisis. That is counter-intuitive and painful because conservative policies were so destructive and Democrats did correct and brave things. Voters understand this more than you appreciate, but that is at least three years ago now, and voters think a focus on that misses the country‘s urgent current reality.
The economy‘ is not the recovery, but a set of powerful on-going realities: a middle class smashed and struggling, American jobs being lost, the country and people in debt, and the nexus of big money and power that leaves common people excluded.
If Democrats get it and embrace that reality is their mission, there is potential for immense dividends. As we will see, voters are desperate for leaders who understand the scope of what is happening to them, the middle class and America. They want serious plans, not triumphalism about jobs reports.
Of course for this strategy to work would require Obama to admit he has made mistakes and fallen short of his goals. That is not something that comes easy to most politicians.



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“Dem Pollsters to Obama: Americans Still Think we are in the Ditch”
this should read
Most AMERICANS are in a DITCH. (Most Americans know they are in a ditch, they feel the ditch they are in Daily)
the other good news, is OBAMA crazy ideas got a lot of DEMS beat in 2010,
(Obama/Hoover economic policies will never fix the USA economy, the corporate media un-employment rate will be 9% or higher in Nov. 2012, and real un-employment will be at 20% or higher, no sitting president will win re-election with these numbers so OBAMA is a 1 term president)
so a lot of new DEMS will be running for office in 2012 we can only pray that these DEMS love Dems like FDR, JFK, LBJ, and hate people like Reagan and Bush
Gov. Walker is also helping real Dems big time! Gov. Walker tells Dems daily the GOP has no intentions to ever work with DEMS, so Dems need to stop working with GOPers.
Hopefully the new Dems that come to DC in 2012, will ignore the idea of working with GOPers.
just in Obama and Mitt Romney are tied for the GOP nomination
real dems still waiting for a Dem President to run in 2012
Obama is a pathetic loser. He and the Dems were in the strongest possible position to get things done, and he sold us out every single time. He is the master of caving for no reason, quite a dangerous President, who sways people with meaningless speeches then sticks the knife in.
He’s the worst back stabber in Chief since Clinton. Clinton got lucky on his watch and had he kept his dick in his pants we probably would have never gotten stuck with BV$H. Obama ‘s Presidency is a train wreck from day 1. he wasted any creds he had by starting out with a bail out for Wall st. and following it with a stimulus that was so weak it did nothing but give a few politicians walk around money to piss away how ever they pleased and oh boy did they ever piss it away for little or no effect. He’s no FDR, more of a Hoover if u ask me. Like a Hoover he sucks. I won’t vote for him again.
Jim and seaglass… FINALLY, some people who get it!
Of course, for the progressive movement to move forward would require Progressive blog-pundits to admit that Obama achieved most of his goals, just that his goals are right-wing, corporatist ones. That is not something that comes easy to most blog-pundits.
The pollsters give good advice and I hope Obama takes it.
I disagree with Jon Walker that following the strategy requires Obama to “admit he has made mistakes and fallen short of his goals”. The whole point of the pollsters is to STOP arguing about the past and to concentrate on the future and fight for a squeezed middle class. The debt ceiling battle can be useful for democrats in painting the budget cuts as an axe against the middle class being used to fund future tax increases for corporate interests. In this narrative, conservative ideology is imperiling the middle class and this can be a useful bludgeon for Obama and the democrats in congress.
Like Obama, Republican Hoover convened meetings with key Republican Business Predators of the day and attempted to persuade them to retain as many employees as possible.
They took that as a sign that the economy was worse than they had imagined. They promptly fired everyone when they went home.
This is just one example of how Obama = Hoover.
Generally agree. I think Obama must stop talking about all the great things he’s done and start taking the fight to the repugs. I think he and the dems have to start a fight over what we need to do:create jobs with another stimulus or put the working man in the poor house with misbegotten spending cuts.
Obama is an unmitigated disaster as President.
As far as I’m concerned, he has accomplished nothing useful or significant. Obamacare = Romneycare with a dash of Dole. Nothing to be proud of since it’s a thinly disguised giveaway to the health insurance companies. That’s the best thing this jerk has accomplished. The list of broken promises and disasters now numbers well in excess of 200 and now he has his sights set on imposing austerity measures that will kill what’s left of the middle class, blow-up what’s left of the safety net, plunge the country into a deep depression that will make the 1930s look like child’s play, and enrich the richest 1% of our country, which is already filthy rich.
Please, somebody. Anybody. Primary this disgraceful POS we have for a President.
The U.S. is a lost cause. Corps are ruling party.
I don’t think you will get your primary challenge. He has not been the man we thought but do we really think Romney is better? If he and the dems do not stand up and fight then they will lose and we will get whatever the thugs want to give us or take away. IN truth if they do not fight, I won’t care enough to vote.
See this, I think, is where the problem is….. they’re focus on “tough economic realities” will be the budget deficit and the choices, like that focus, will be the same as the Rs; fuck the middle class and poor. The difference will be “I’ll use a scalpel while they use an ax.” And that’s the problem. Different degrees of the same shit. Won’t be about showing how Obama makes “different choices” than whatever clown the Rs run.
That’s all obama is good for – making speeches which mean NOTHING. I never forgot those Greek columns in Grant Park – it was sickening. I knew then we were in trouble. I’m sick of him. I’m not voting for him in 2012, I would rather have a republican in the white house and maybe then, the screwed up democrats can start fighting back. Of course, they will not be fighting back because of any principles, but because they want to be in power. WE NEED A THIRD PARTY.
Who cares what Ds or Rs do. It’s all the same.
Since Rs are really really nuts, O will win. Why spend so much time on such an inevitability.
Me neither. And yeah, there won’t be a primary challeneger but I certainly understand Masoninblue’s desire for one. Frustrating, ain’t it?
As I read it that report suggests that a focus on austerity and spending cuts will not work for either party. The economic reality for those issues is not there, if it ever was. In any case the train has left the station. The democrats can capitalize on that and win in 2012. But talking about what happened in the past, good or bad, is counterproductive. I personally think the “use by” date on those issues has all passed by. People want to hear what we will do NOW,not what we did or did not do in the past. To borrow a pharse: “its the economy stupid.”
And the ditch is rapidly filling with water.
I was happy that night and happy inauguration day. Very happy. All that shit is looooong over. The thought of Rs in the WH and/or and in control of Congress is truly frightening. But I’m an exceptionalist American. I can deal with it somehow. So I’m not voting for him neither. Lots of us aren’t. I wish thaat him and Axeldick would learfn from that but the only thing they think in terms of is whether they moved far enough to the right. He’s got enough people he can take for granted—-I’m not gonna be one.
Just who is giving him political advice Gen Custard?
Can anyone inform me why the subject of this post has any bearing on U.S. policy?
Only in Washington do officeholders need pollsters to tell them that citizens are hurting. If these officeholders (and pollsters, too) took a furlough outside the Beltway and actually talked to real people, they’d discover that things aren’t exactly copacetic–and in no uncertain terms. But that would make their jobs irrelevant.
It *might* not be inevitable. Imagine Unemployment over 10% again, with gas prices at $5/gal. Sarah F’ing Palin could beat O.
The ditch is filling with water full of flesh eating pirhanas.
Yes it is frustrating. But I think we need to move on. I feel like I am drinking a bitter brew but I don’t have any answer other than to try and drag the dems and Obama back to the left to help solve our problems and not the fucking deficit. If they won’t come, they wont win and I will back away. More “triuphant” talk, as suggested in the report, won’t work and will probably hurt.
Oh really.
When we get 10% unemp let’s talk about it. Until then, it’s just a group grope.
The Ds will win no matter what happens bc the Rs are nuts and the voters will switch.
Both parties know this.
Obama will lose all his support if he does not come out and support the need for a new deal. Same for the party. The thugs will have a resounding victory. I think he has now been told this. Keep on “negotiating” with the thugs for spending cuts and be a one termer.
Teehee… Who wants to guess when we’ll be back at 10 percent?
35% is plenty to start a revolution. They say American business is siting on a trillion in cash and not ussing it to create jobs. So much for tax cuts for the rich will create jobs. However by withholding the cash they could be trying to create conditions similar to the rise of Hitler. To bad they don’t have a single competent candidate.
Not Competent sane just competent to say their lines like they really believe them without going off script. I doubt Hitler could have handled our fact checking though.:)
Big Business maybe trying to recreate Hitler and create a Shock Doctrine scenario where the economy is so poor we all are happy to give up SS, Medicare, the minimum wage, child labor laws, the right to strike etc but this can backfire on them.
America could go full tilt Commie.
The sad thing is Obama is sooo misreading the signs he thinks this is a friendly game of poker but the other two sides at the table are just waiting to raise the stakes and keep on raising the stakes to force the other players out of the game.
When Obama played poker in Springfield Illinois with Lobbyists he never realized they let him win. Obama thinks he is good at reading people but he isn’t.
I smell a gunfight coming at the OK Coral.
That is not a particularly happy thought:imagine winning with 10% unemployment. Makes me want to vote for Romney. Shit he might actually try to fix it.
Flesh eating piranhas ain’t no biggie compared to soul eating neoliberals like Obama who worship at the filthy feet of the god of greed.
Both parties are not betting on rebellion and unrest.
Worse. The DLC.
He really doesn’t get it. He is in a fight and thinks it’s a dance and we will all just get along.
Apparently, people Win The Future in ditches.
The party that captures that anger will win.
Isn’t Mitt’s strategy *already* to talk about JobsJobsJobs? Smart. Unfortunately for us, destroying jobs to create jobs isn’t going to be effective.
Disagree. I think he knows exactly what he’s doing and why he’s doing it. Everything else is mere kabuki.
Heh. I meant to say the ditch is rapidly filling with water full of soul-eating neoliberals.
Great and Obama wonders why the Left is deserting him he thinks we will all come back to him because the GOP is the only choice? I’ll vote for any Lefty but I won’t vote Obama. I just got an e mail Obama’s people are going to tap? me I replied I volunteer at FDL and either he ends both wars, creates a ton of good paying jobs or gets us French style National Healthcare.
He “thinks” he knows what he is doing. If he doesn’t wake up and understand this is a gun fight, he will drag us all down with him.
In 2012, Team Obama is going to deploy the famous “We Suck Less” strategy. It will be less than an overwhelming success.
Way I see it is that it’s about polling. Polling drives politics. Politics drives policy. Well, money drives all that, but anyway………..
True and the Right seems to be great at inflaming that anger but the Left are the only people talking about creating jobs. Ryan’s more tax cuts for the rich at the expense of Medicare is killing the GOP this shows that even GOP voters don’t want to trade medicare for the piss poor hope that tax cuts will create jobs.
The 30%ers I guess have read about the trillion dollars in cash that American business is siting on and not ussing to create jobs.
I said a lot of the same things but highlighed jobs and taxes. I also told them NO to any money until they start a fight. (taxes weren’t even on the Q, imagine that!!) And I let it be known I am not at all intereted in spending cuts until jobs improve, so STOP negotiating.
At least it will provide ample opportunity for snark.
True and the Right seems to be great at inflaming that anger but the Left are the only people talking about creating jobs. Ryan’s more tax cuts for the rich at the expense of Medicare is killing the GOP this shows that even GOP voters don’t want to trade medicare for the piss poor hope that tax cuts will create jobs.
The 30%ers I guess have read about the trillion dollars in cash that American business is siting on and not using to create jobs.
Wont work with 10% unemployment and a lousy health care bill. Better to let Romney work on it.
Did you tell them to take you off their list?
I don’t think O’s people are going to talk much about Taping past contributors or volunteers the where has the Obama volunteer army gone might be the biggest story of the Presidential campaign.
If they fight for something I will support them, but no more walks around the city.
Mitt is going to talk about jobs like how many clearchannel employees he fired after he bought ClearChannel just so he could afford to keep paying Rush Limbaugh’s contract?
Like how Mitt had illegal immigrants cutting his lawn but he was against illegals ( I presume because they take away jobs nobody wants to do at that price) remember that illegals were again cutting Mitt’s lawn after Mitt said he fired them.
Even the Obama team can push back against Mitt’s record on jobs they don’t need our help for that.
If you haven’t figured out that President Obama never started with a progressive vision and certainly hasn’t led as one during his presidency, well…
He believes in neo-liberal policies. You can hope differently all you want, but that isn’t likely to change. These same policies have been driving this country towards the ditch for years so re-electing Obama or another Republican will just continue exactly what is happening now.
I don’t remotely think there will be a “fight” at the OK corral. Obama has already been chosen as the one to get through the neo-liberal agenda for the wealthy and powerful. The only “fight” will be illusory so that citizens “think” there is a difference in the candidates.
Forgot besides its like telemarketers right they say your not on the list they say they never sell your information yet still my Mom despite being old enough to legally be automatically on the telemarketers don’t call list still gets calls.
I do not expect Obama to admit just how many people have asked to be removed from the list I suspect at best people who asked to be removed from the list are just called inactive don’t call…. until they really really need us.
Begging is so unattractive it would be nice if O came over and said hi here’s National Healthcare or I ended 2 wars for you or here’s a good paying job.
Calling us at the last minute screaming Sarah Palin is going to hand me my head unless you give me some campaign cash soon is the kind of call I don’t want to hear in the middle of the night.
I don’t have Junkie or Gambler friends so I don’t expect those calls
Who said Obama would fight the Corporate GOP has nutcase Militia groups who as the election gets nearer will be impossible to control. There will be more shootings at politicians, government buildings dark people and of course banks because the Militas need money.
Can Rahm prevent riots in a hot summer in Chicago if he keeps sending cops out to repossess African American and Hispanic homes?
It won’t just be Chicago either.
Good talk first time this week the net has been working good for me for more than 5 minutes but I gotta go might be back later.
Given the economy and jobs where we are now and O still talking nicely about spending cuts, I will vote for romney. Couldn’t be any worse and besides I saw the movie once.
Despite Obama’s being a right of center person with too many corporate masters, he is not very smart. Most of us were yelling for him to tackle jobs first in the winter of 2009 and put health care on the back burner. All of his pussy actions with Republicans cost Dems & progressives the 2010 election. Now we have complete ideologues and corporate serfs running state governments. Gearing up to vote for the lesser of two evils while unemployed isn’t going to cut it in 2012. Obama created his 2012 defeat by the decisions he made and lack of backbone he exhibited in 2009. Perhaps he will win but it doesn’t look good.
You have something against group gropes?
There, fixed it.
Paradoxically, Democrats must forget the past and the financial crisis.
That is counter-intuitive and painful because conservative policies were so destructive and Democrats did correct and brave things. Voters understand this more than you appreciate, but that is at least three years ago now, and voters think a focus on that misses the country‘s urgent current reality.
Isn’t that the message Obama has been trying to pull off for the past years? Forget the past and move on…the result has been at best sloppy policies and at worst criminal neglect..the Banking crisis is still with us and will get worse…
Here’s a thought: BOTH PARTIES BLOW GOATS! Just sayin…
The president is a corrupt moron (and so are the other beltway insiders and politicians of both parties). We must seek redress of our grievances in other ways and through other channels.
There’s a pattern here. Americans can’t stand anyone who is in power, because they consistently fail us.
Obama and the Dems are already too far down the road to austerity and poverty for the middle class, and record profits, and giveaways for the elite banks and corporations. Nothing about their message or policies are going to change now. They will win by default (we suck less), and by continuing to serve the interests of the elite. The pollsters are living in a fantasy reality.
Americans still think we are in a ditch and Barack Obama (the replacement driver) is just as bad as the original driver George W. Bush.
LOL! And that is just the warm up!
Unfortunately, that party has been the Repubican/Tea Party so far. Dems are doing absolutely nothing to tap into that anger.
Can’t wait for the article that begins: The good news for us . . . .
What is good news for one or other of the parties repeatedly fails to be good news for us.
i totalyy agree….
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