Using projections from Moody’s analyst Mark Zandi, Paul Krugman came to the conclusion that the Obama-McConnell tax deal could end up hurting President Obama’s 2012 re-election bid by reducing growth rates in the critical months leading up to the election. From Krugman:
Look at the Zandi estimates: they show a boost to the economy in 2011, which is then given back in 2012. So growth is actually slower in 2012 than it would be without the deal.
Now, what we know from lots of political economy research — Larry Bartels is my guru on this — is that presidential elections depend, not on the state of the economy, but on whether things are getting better or worse in the year or so before the election. The unemployment rate in October 1984 was almost the same as the rate in October 1980 — but Carter was thrown out by voters who saw things getting worse, while for Reagan it was morning in America.
Put these two observations together — and what you get is that the tax-cut deal makes Obama’s reelection less likely. Let me repeat: the tax cut deal makes Obama less likely to win in 2012.
Early in the week, I came to a similar conclusion about the structure of this deal. Because it only contained a year extension of some of the working class relief, the deal could be a real political trap for Obama.
We have a situation where take-home incomes for millions might increase slightly for a year, only to have them decrease slightly the next year when the tax cuts expire. Having take-home incomes decrease in the lead-up to an election should be hugely costly to the incumbent president. What has been set up is likely a crisis in early 2011 when Obama has to either let the tax cuts expire for the middle class during a weak economy or give in to a Republican party with a huge upper hand. Neither will likely result in a good political outcome for Democrats.
Since the deal extends the Bush tax cuts for two years, but the unemployment benefits and many provision meant help the working class for only a year, it weakens Obama’s hand in 2011. He will have fewer bargaining chips, for example, he won’t even be able to hold the estate tax hostage to get a similar deal again.
A “deal” that, due to its structure, will likely hurt the President’s re-election prospects and sets up future political battles in which the President will have an even weaker negotiating hand is simply not a good deal. There is no way to not see this as a huge political and policy win for the GOP. . . after all, their big “concession” to Obama was a payroll tax cut–a Republican idea to begin with.



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Other things are crossing our minds besides the Trojan condom’s re-election.
Heh, ya think?
Well. If you weren’t a sanctimonious purist, and an effing retard who needs to be drug tested, you would see that this bill contains tax cuts and more tax cuts, and that means the economy will be booming by 2012. In fact, that’s why they only need 13 months of UI extension, since there won’t be any unemployed as soon as these almighty tax cuts hit the streets. This is all part of the elebenty-dimensional chess game to replace all the Republicans with Blue Dogs, and those foolish Republicans have walked right into the trap. Muahahaha.
So, Congress, take it or leave it.
Must be some kind of “New Democrat” magic that will happen to make the extension of the Bush tax cuts for the extremely rich more amenable to being rescinded with a Reppublican House.
Obama is not a leader. He does not respond to the needs of THE PEOPLE. Instead, he protects his class–the rich.
“Because it only contained a year extension of some of the working class relief, the deal could be a real political trap for Obama.”
OR, it isn’t a “political trap” at all but instead a way for a “Democratic” president who is truly a Republican to further the Republican agenda a year from now with more concessions.
Paul Krugman was correct, “So there are real reasons to worry here. Obama may be buying off the hostage-takers by … giving them more hostages.”
Well crap, does this mean I should now be FOR the tax deal, just so I could assure his defeat in 2012???
BTW, DFA is beating the drum with petitions thanking Pelosi, and the PCCC is asking for $$$ to run ads against Obama. I don’t have links, but maybe someone can provide them, particularly the PCCC.
We are all hostages now.
And BTW, when was the last time a “rescuer” screamed and cursed at the “hostages”?
Promises, promises…
Eh – the US public are so vapid and have the attention span of a gnat, I wouldn’t bet the farm on this. The corporate-owned rightwing media will have two whole years to spin this nonsense, and a whole lot of the populace is fooled over & over with the trickle down bullhype that zillionaires should never ever have to pay their fair share.
OTOH: wish we didn’t have to wait two friggin’ years for the consequences!!!!
This reminds me of the primary debate Obama had with Hillary where he was getting hammered by Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulous because they felt he wasn’t sensitive enough to rich people’s tax breaks — can’t remember if it was the estate tax or income tax or what.
Instead of fighting back against them and saying he was for the people, etc., he just stood there and took it. It seemed like he was letting the upper crust know he was going to look out for them. It now seems he’s willing to become a one-term President in order to deliver these unnecessary, destructive tax breaks to the upper crust.
I don’t think he will seek a second term.
I’ve thought this for a while, and he’s even indicated it quite a few times by telling us via several interviews that he would rather be a great one term president than a mediocre two term president.
Well, guess what?
He’ll be neither.
I think he wanted to BECOME president and be inscribed in the history books for all times as the first AA president, but it’s clear to me that he does not want to BE president.
nah. The fucking retards in the liberal base will come home.
/rahm
but Kyle, it’s always been a choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich…
…this one’s easy. Let The Tax Cuts Expire. Period.
that it’s the R’s holy grail should be enough. don’t hand it to them on a silver platter.
Thanks for the post Jon.
Scarecrow posted on this as well.
Obama’s political Team should get this post in their e mail:)
Meanwhile, in the UK
Phew! For a moment, I was worried that misfortune might accrue to people that matter. What are the commoners in a snit about this time?
Well, I certainly Hope SO, Olly!
I’m going to repeat this from a letter to Congress written by Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1938:
“Unhappy events abroad have retaught us two simple truths about the liberty of a democratic people. The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is fascism—ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any other controlling private power.” AND “The second truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if its business system does not provide employment and produce and distribute goods in such a way as to sustain an acceptable standard of living. Both lessons hit home. Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing.”
We have destroyed much of our manufacturing base in this country other than to produce for the military. “Trickle down economics” has been a complete failure (even David Stockman admits this) with a resultant decrease in wages for the past 30 years and an even greater inequality of wealth. The Bush Tax cuts for the rich put our country even further in debt because we are taking in far less revenue. Unemployment has increased with “outsourcing” of jobs by multi-national corporations an accepted part of business. Basically, the neo-liberal – neo-conservative agenda has been a complete failure for “we the people” of this country. Since President Obama is continuing the same failed policies, we will continue on this same failed path.
My, we’re in a good mood today, LOL.
Meanwhile, in the Senate
Senate GOP Blocks Cloture On Repeal Of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell
But, I thought Lieberman had this all sewn up?
You didn’t notice the Rahm tag?
Wasn’t it just a year ago when it was scandalous for a Democrat to vote against their party on a closure vote?
Obama’s regressive tax deal probably added a few million voters to the list of people who already hate his guts. And it probably will bring the total collapse of the dollar, the economy and the empire a few months sooner. In any case there is no way Obama will be reelected. He probably won’t even run.
Has anyone actually read Mark Zandi? He actually likes the proposal that everyone keeps calling capitulation. Don’t believe me? Ask him yourself, Ezra Klein did… http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/12/mark_zandi_on_the_tax-cut_deal.html
Really? No shit?
I’m beginning to think more and more that he really doesn’t care about being re-elected, that his plan all along was to serve one term, deliver everything on his paymaster’s agenda (incl. the preservation of the Bush tax cuts and gutting SS), then ride off into a lucrative sunset.
So while I appreciate that fact that this is a bitter pill to swallow (it seems like Republicant’s are constantly giving everyone who disagrees with them facials) the deal is like by probably the best economist in the country. Meaning, no disrespect Paul Krugman, your most likely wrong on this one.
He doesn’t deserve reelection.
Any DEM. politician seeking to get re-elected would have not given the GOP a two year tax cut for the rich, and working people one year of un-employemnt.
this equation only make sense if you want to lose in 2012.
Obama just can’t do Kabuki as good as Clinton, but he is not that big of an idiot.
Obama knows what any political campaign manager knows, the chances of him winning a second term were always bleak! Black candidate just don’t win state wide elections back to back. (this is just a fact)
We all say OBAMA is a trojan horse, so what do trojan horses do?
did the dems just get wipe out in the 2010 mid-terms? yes
is Obama trying to get the dems to vote for the bush tax? yes
(any Dem that votes for this tax cut, can’t really talk about the economy in 2012, which kills their ability to fight GOPers in a bad Economy)
Obama and his over lords don’t want any Dems to primary Obama, because they know the FIXed is in
Who on here does not think OBAMA is killing his chances to get re-elected? anyone? please
Obama is intentionally wrecking his chances to win in 2012 and other Dems chances.
the more you read about the OBAMA tax bill scam
you learn that the dirt poor taxes go up? Obama is making it to OBVIOUS
if you were a Dem in the WH, would you freeze FED workers PAY? do FED workers not vote?
what did OBAMA do for the 99er? nothing! :) wake up people!!! that was insane, I am running for re-election in 2012 and kick the 99er in the TEETH? not a smart thing to do to say the least.
more people are going to learn this little known fact, Obama is now helping the Banks make money off of foreclostures?
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Better%20Believe%20It/
Obama lacks Clinton skills at KABUKI, but when it comes to throwing the general election of 2012, he is good at that.
Dem have two choices
1st give the keys to the WH without a fight in 2012
or
2 primary OBAMA
it is that simple FOLKS
Obama is making this very OBVIOUS
Obama is making sure he gives the keys to the WH to a Republican
Amen. Well said.
As Ralph Nader wrote today in Common Dreams – “obama is unprincipled and opportunistic. He’s a con man and I have no use for him.”
DITTO!!
WOW !!!
Nader said that? WOW
The Republican strategy is to call this the Obama/Democratic party tax cuts for the rich for the 2012 elections. In one of those rare moments, the Republicans won’t be lying. It WILL be associated with Obama and the Democratic party. Obama doesn’t care…will the Democratic party let this happen?
It’s like the Ancient Roman Republic. It’s a government by the patricians for the patricians. The only way a plebian can get into any position of power is to be rich, and by then, they’re only looking after the interests of patricians and other rich plebians.
He’ll be offering them Social Security on a silver platter and to prove what a solid wing-nut he is he’ll offer them cuts in federal employee pensions as a bonus.
If this headline is true, then I’m starting to really like the tax cut deal.
I don’t miss George W. Bush and never will, but I truly believe Obama is worse.
While I agree that the neo-conservatives constantly work behind the scenes for their special interests, I completely disagree with you that “Obama is the best we could have”.
President Obama is a neo-liberal (ie. conservative for corporations). We have a media which keeps “messaging” that U.S. citizens are so “conservative”. I call B.S. on that…otherwise John McCain and Sarah Palin WOULD be in the White House now. After all, Barack Obama was portrayed as a “socialist” and “communist” among many other things (which were literally fabricated and ridiculous) but actually worked IN HIS FAVOR. The truth is that the majority of Americans WANT social programs such as Social Security and Medicare (including the misguided tea party group). Instead, what we ended up with was a trojan horse who is destroying social programs.
I’m sorry about the “cuts” affecting primarily women in Britain. What are the women in Britain going to do about it? You apparently have a similar situation there as far as a small group of powerful and wealthy destroying the country in the name of power and greed.
Is there any doubt that we have a repub president but then so is the dem party not a dem party anymore.
Obama killed what was left of the democratic party.
If the party does not want total death, they MUST find a decent challenger to Obama.
COULD damage? More like WILL damage.
This was the straw for me. I will never vote for Obama for any office ever again. I campaigned for him and had several phone bank parties in my home for him during the 2008 campaign.
If Democrats had wanted a reconstituted Clinton administration we would have nominated Hillary, but that fact of life seems to escape the attention of Obama and the Clintons. They can all go to H.
I think we should re-establish the Populist Party. The Democrats and the Republican Parties are polluted beyond repair.
Only in the sense that a blind rabid wombat would be better than what we’ve had for many years.
Unfortunately a blind rabid wombat would be better than Obama too.
Let The Tax Cuts Expire.
One gets the best economic result and the best political result.
The GOP are forced to compromise with their deficit hawks – the tax cuts will be retroactive to the first of the year and smaller and not go to the rich – indeed if the new Senate holds the line via procedure (I have no hope they will hold as to actual votes that require a majority – but 60 is another ball game), we will actually have a better progressive outcome because we will know not to follow Obama – and indeed we will be primary-ing him.
Uh, he damaged his likelihood of getting my vote a long time ago. Now he is just sealing the deal.
I would rather have a republican in the white house who is clearly someone to despise, rather than a faux democrat who is a republican enabler
Exactly right. Letting tax cuts expire is the best option. If they threaten they will get by Republican votes I would really like to see the spectacle of a DINO executive branch signing the tax deal without any Democratic support. It will open lot of eyes on the main street how FAR Right executive branch has turned.
With Tax Cut expiry, Deficit drops and congress gets wiggle room to support schools in their constituency by earmarks etc which is a really needed long term investment in the country without adding a pie to the deficit.
No that is not the thing executive branch wants: Estate Tax reduction for millionaries and billionaries and Making Social security savings Pot smaller so that it can be gutted out to irrelevance. So Catfood commission will win by this sleight of hand from the executive branch on their behalf.
If they were really interested in middle class people more money they would have reduced federal income tax by 2% rate upto $106,000 without touching s.s. savings. That was never the intention. It is simply a class warfare on the middle and poor class on behalf of the rich by the executive branch. Cannot believe responsibility and willingness to do right for the country and majority of the people has taken a flight and all that remains is a willingness to ensure pain and suffering on the elderly in their golden years and main stream.
Believe it or not on the same day Federal worker wage freeze was announced AHIP & Pharma got their due Medicare rate increases.
If Markets are doing not doing well what all the businesses do. Drop the rates of the items to be sold. AHIP & Pharma figured out a way to dis-regard the market forces and this would have surprised Adam Smith whether they can be practically feasible.
If they really care for Social Security drop federal income tax rates by 4% upto $106,500 then add 2% on the behalf on the employee to the social security trust fund and 2% to the employee. This is the real proof of why Catfood commission was setup. To expressly destroy social security, then ensure hardships to the retirees, create pain and suffering on the main stream while the wall street takes total control of the economy.