In addition to highly contested gubernatorial and senate contests, the voters of California will be deciding several of the most important ballot initiatives in the country. From PPIC (PDF):
Proposition 19
16. Proposition 19 is called the “Legalizes Marijuana Under California but Not Federal Law. Permits Local Governments to Regulate and Tax Commercial Production, Distribution, and Sale of Marijuana. Initiative Statute.” It allows people 21 years old or older to possess, cultivate, or transport marijuana for personal use. Depending on federal, state, and local government actions, fiscal impact is potential increased tax and fee revenues in the hundreds of millions of dollars annually and potential correctional savings of several tens of millions of dollars annually. If the election were held today, would you vote yes or no on Proposition 19?
yes 44
no 49
don’t know 7
The previous PPIC poll, from September, was the best poll to date for Prop 19, reporting it ahead 52-41, yet this most recent poll is one of the worst. Given how little change there has been in SurveyUSA polling, I find it hard to believe there really was a 16-point change in only a few weeks. Much of the decline in support found by the poll was among independents (from 65 percent to 40 percent) and Hispanics (from 63 percent to 40 percent).
Proposition 23
Proposition 23 is called the “Suspends Implementation of Air Pollution Control Law AB 32 Requiring Major Sources of Emissions to Report and Reduce Greenhouse Gas Emissions That Cause Global Warming, Until Unemployment Drops to 5.5 Percent or Less for Full Year. Initiative Statute.” Fiscal impact is a likely modest net increase in overall economic activity in the state from suspension of greenhouse gases regulatory activity, resulting in a potentially significant net increase in state and local revenues. If the election were held today, would you vote yes or no on Proposition 23?
yes 37
no 48
don’t know 15
Proposition 23 is a multimillion dollar project funded almost exclusively by the oil industry to cripple California’s climate change legislation. A Prop 23 win in California could have made politicians across the country terrified to address climate change. The measure, however, appears headed for a big defeat, and many of the state’s biggest politicians from both parties have come out against it. This will be a noteworthy victory for the environmentalist movement and strong rebuke of corporate attempts to buy democracy.
Proposition 25
Proposition 25 is called the “Changes Legislative Vote Requirement to Pass Budget and Budget-related Legislation From Two-Thirds to a Simple Majority. Retains Two-Thirds Vote Requirement for Taxes. Initiative Constitutional Amendment.” The legislature permanently forfeits daily salary and expenses until budget bill passes. Fiscal impact is, in some years, the contents of the state budget could be changed due to the lower legislative vote requirement in this measure. The extent of changes would depend on the legislature’s future actions. If the election were held today, would you vote yes or no on Proposition 25?
yes 49
no 34
don’t know 17
California is uniquely burdened with a highly dysfunctional state legislature that requires a two-thirds vote for tax increases and for the state’s budget. The result is near-continuous gridlock that hurts the state as a whole while dramatically empowering a small minority of Republicans in Sacramento. For those not from California, think of a situation similar to the current problem with the filibuster in the United State Senate. Prop 25 would at least remove the super-majority requirement for the budget.
Interestingly, despite the current set up, the partisan divide is not as big as I would expect. Currently, 58 percent of Democrats support Prop 25, and 39 percent of Republicans oppose it. I would think Democrats should support the measure in much greater numbers.
If this initiative does fail because it didn’t get near-unanimous support from the Democratic base, it will be a sign of how significantly the Democratic party of California has failed to explain the systemic source of many of the state’s problems.



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Prop 25 is awesome. Will go a long way to fixing our yearly budget impasse caused by the minority Repubs who can block any revenue considerations and just CUT BABY CUT : schools, police, firemen.
Prop 21 is to fund state parks using an $18 vehicle fee, which once paid provides free admission to state parks. A win win.
Prop 25 is confusing enough that the polls may not be accurate. Assuming Dem voters understand it, which I doubt, one possible concern is that Prop 25 lowers the bar to passing a budget that doesn’t raise taxes. That could mean spending cuts. Yet if you look who supports Prop 25 (government unions), clearly they don’t expect that to happen. Prop 25 also has a concerning provision that further restricts the initiative process. I’m not sure that’s a bad thing, but it hasn’t been widely debated.
In addition to Prop 19, be sure to vote “YES ON 20″ and “NO ON 27″ – expand nonpartisan redistricting, don’t repeal it.
Someone needs to remind the voters out there what the revenue implications of defeating Prop 19 are, which I’m sure folks are doing. The biggest winners if this doesn’t pass is going to be the drug cartels.
Tell those fucking stoners there are Doritos at the poling station.
The Proposition 19 numbers aren’t surprising. They’re in line with the Proposition 8 supporters in California.
LMAO! Cookies too.
But they’re not getting cell phone users – meaning most of the young.
Jerry Brown cold do a lot if 25 passes. Hope hope schools and safety net.
I’m hip. It’s not just that but the thoroughly unrealistic likely voter filter everybody is using this year. Even Maddow is trying to sell the NARRATIVE tonight.
With Salsa!! And Avocado..
I think the polls are more useless in this election than any one I’ve ever seen. There are just too many factions and variables that can’t be polled. We shall see and I suspect there will be some surprises.
If Prop 19 is losing support, much of the blame goes to California establishment Democrats who decided to pander to soccer moms on this issue. With Democrats like this, is it any wonder there’s an enthusiasm gap among young voters?
Agree with that.
“Save the Children!” — it worked for Prop 8, it might work against Prop 19.
They’ll talk it up the next 10 days, though, you can bet on that.
I haven’t heard that here, yet, and I live in a fairly conservative neighborhood. The Prop 8 campaign didn’t work very well in my neighborhood. Just saying what I see and hear in the ‘hood.
The MSM is pushing the anti-19 side very,very hard, to thepoint of being pretty damned ridiculous.
Ehh, PPIC also has Boxer and Brown leading well outside the margin of error, which makes them outliers there too. It’s hard to believe a polling outfit that is projecting both really strong Democratic performance in California and really weak results for Prop 19.
I imagine it’s very difficult to explain a ballot initiative over the telephone. And so many propositions – what voters are really going to answer all these questions from a pollster? There’s got to be a self-selection issue with polling like this.
The polls on these things are relatively meaningless. I remember the polls were wildly inaccurate for the gay marriage ban and other props in the past. Don’t despair.
Maybe they need a theme song too? “Hemp Will Save The World” – Los Marijuanos
Prop 25 is easy enough for even me to understand
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ballot-measures/qualified-ballot-measures.htm
Prop’s 24 and 25 have to pass
And 26 is the most regressive thing on any ballot since the PG&E money grab Prop 16 last June
Found the picture for the Canadians’ we-Canni-car. Cute, huh? This could be us. How about the Tesla with a non-petrochemical body:
The exterior could be a composite formed from a cannibis-based resin with the graphite fibers, and, the resin could be harvested from raw materials grown here instead of importing them from outside the country.
Maybe because many Dems are older and see Prop 25 as a back-door around Prop 13, and thus may leave result in them out of their homes in a few years and out on the street. People seem to think that the additional tax revenue will fall out of the sky instead of realizing that it will come directly out of their pockets. Yes, we may have more money for schools (many school systems, esp. like LAUSD being a monument to waste), more money for public employee pensions (90% of salary at age 55 + COLA and health care), etc., but it will come out of the voter’s pockets.
Ah, err…read the fine print. Prop 21 contains no mandate for the state to continue funding the parks at the same level they are now or have in the past. Ergo, the state can take that $18 per car, stick it into the parks fund, then take an equal amount or more out of the park fund for something else, like legislator’s salary increases, office redecorating, appointments for cronies to various commissions that meet 1-4 a years and pay $60-100K a year. Meanwhile, you show up to that park where you were promised free admission and you’ll get in free alright. There just won’t be anybody there to maintain the park, clean the park, make sure it’s safe, etc. It’ll be open the same way an ATM is open: no human required.
The new flash on the Tesla as of Oct. 13th is that later this year they expect to produce RAV4 prototypes for Toyota, and then in 2012, a commercial model:
I really have always thought these elections were controlled. I will never forget the year CA voted to keep spraying malathion, a known carcinogen, on their neighborhoods . Never believed it. Every health improvement decision went the toxic chemical companies way. Never believed it.
buy democracy, and continue to destroy the planet.
Great coalition of non oil interests here who are fighting back this greed based prop 23.
This is some very good news.
I’ll be honest, the only electric car I’m interested in is the electric Fiat 500 that’s supposed to come out in 2012. If the electrification of the automobile is inevetable, I want something that doesn’t look dorky.
Looks like you are talking about this incarnation of the Fiat 500. Cars actually tend to be international creations but I’d prefer to buy from a source that ensures good jobs in the US.
The engineering for the electric 500 is being done by Chrysler, if that helps.
The North American 500 is being built in Mexico, though…
“…but I’d prefer to buy from a source that ensures good jobs in the US.”
The upcoming electric Focus is being built in Michigan, and Nissan is preparing a factory in Tennessee to build the Leaf starting in 2012, so you have options.