Gil Kerlikowske, the current director of the Office of the National Drug Control Policy, i.e. the “Drug Czar,” along with several former Drug Czars, is out with a new op-ed in the Los Angeles Times. This latest bit of professional propaganda argues against the passage of California’s Proposition 19, which would legalize, tax and regulate marijuana.
As expected, the Drug Czars seem to have no other choice than to resort to absolutely ridiculous arguments against the ballot measure. From the op-ed:
Law enforcement officers do not currently focus much effort on arresting adults whose only crime is possessing small amounts of marijuana.
This is such twisted logic that I feel I have disappeared down the rabbit hole. Part of their actual argument for maintaining our current marijuana policy is that cops have basically given up trying to enforce our current marijuana prohibition laws. In effect, they are fully acknowledging that our current policy prohibition against marijuana is an abject enforcement failure. Yet, somehow, they manage to twist this failure into an argument against changing the current policy:
This proposition would burden them with new and complicated enforcement duties. The proposition would require officers to enforce laws against “ingesting or smoking marijuana while minors are present.” Would this apply in a private home? And is a minor “present” if they are 15 feet away, or 20? Perhaps California law enforcement officers will be required to carry tape measures next to their handcuffs.
Now this is truly crazy. They are saying that because enforcing marijuana prohibition has proven to be such an impossible task that officers have given up, asking them to enforce sensible legal marijuana regulation would be an equally impossible new enforcement “burden.”
In fact, the vast majority of our laws are regulations. You are allowed to park ten feet from a fire hydrant, but not two feet from a fire hydrant. I personally don’t think our law enforcement officers are brain dead simpletons. They will be able to use their judgment to enforce basic regulations on marijuana use like they do for almost every other part of their jobs, including many regulations on where you are permitted to drink alcohol.
Their argument that a tax on legal marijuana would raise almost no money is just plain silly.
Regarding the supposed economic benefits of taxing marijuana, some comparison with two drugs that are already regulated and taxed — alcohol and tobacco — is worth considering. People don’t typically grow their own tobacco or distill their own spirits, so consumers accept high taxes on them as retail products. Marijuana, though, is easy and cheap to cultivate, indoors or out, and Proposition 19 would allow individuals to grow as much as 25 square feet of marijuana for “personal consumption.”
Why would people volunteer to pay high taxes on marijuana if it were legalized? The answer is that many would not, and the underground market, adapting to undercut any new taxes, would barely diminish at all.
I guess the Drug Czars have never heard of convenience before. Most people don’t actually like dealing with criminals or drug dealers. They would rather buy their vodka or marijuana from the liquor store down the street than spend their time tracking down some shady criminal smuggler to save a few bucks on taxes. The end of alcohol prohibition is in fact the perfect test case for this insane theory that legalization would result in almost no decrease of the black market. The reality was an almost immediate destruction of the black market for alcohol. Do you or any of your friends or family currently get liquor on the black market? I doubt it.
To deal with the other huge logical fallacy in this paragraph, it is important to note that tobacco, like marijuana, also is just a plant. It is as easy to cultivate as marijuana and it is currently legal to grow on your own property with no 25-square-foot restriction. Yet, as they admit, very few people grow their own tobacco. As an active home brewer, I can assure you that producing beer at home is both easy and cheap, yet home brewers produce an almost immeasurably tiny percentage of the total beer in this country. While it is both easy and cheap to avoid the tax on tobacco and alcohol by producing your own, very few Americans actually do.
This is what makes the fight to end our war on marijuana so difficult. The other side is not interested in an honest policy debate. Instead of honest argument, they rely on half-truths, distortions, twisted logic, ridiculous statements and naked propaganda. Sadly, America, this op-ed from Kerlikowske and friends is your wasted tax dollars at work.



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In reality, the powers that be (ie The Big Money Folks) have set it up so the law enforcement community is addicted to the money they capture in drug deals. Recent legislation has allowed them to hold on to huge sums of money captured in drug stings so long as they use it to continue doing that work. Of course law enforcement is against legalization. Aside from the monetary reward they receive they are predisposed to want to have power and control over people otherwise they would not have sought out the jobs they hold. These are people who relish in their power and control over others and we are asking them to give that up. Of course they are going to object.
“The other side is not interested in an honest policy debate.”; and such applies to more than just this issue. What the Drug Tsar is reaally saying is please protect our prison industry,especially since it has now been shown that such doesn’t cost less than public prisons.
Gil Kerlikowske took over the Seattle Police Department during the WTO Convention back in ’99. His demented ideas on law enforcement had as much to do with the tragedy that followed as anything else, IMHO.
With teh economy in the tank, no jobs, no federal solar or wind energy projects (not even tax credits), one might think that the Obama Admin might encourage anything progressive (progress) that is exciting, resembles positive change and enlightened thought that is a cash cow of tax revenue. But No. Status Quo MUST be maintained at all costs.
Progressive Thought TO Team Obama is navel gazing about the goddamn Bush Tax Cuts.
Though many excellent ideas have been promulated on the intertubes (Obama Tax Cuts for Middle Class to replace Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich) They (Team Obama) refuse to frame that stinking dog pile to their advantage.
There never has been an honest argument for prohibition. Never will be. Obama knows the prohibition of marijuana is wrong (he is not stupid) but he supports it anyway. What does that make him?
Your make a good point, but with respect, Team Obama is doing exactly what they’re doing for their advantage. It’s not for your advantage. Never forget that there is a huge difference between what is an “advantage” for Obama v. what is advantageous for the “small” people.
Maybe they don’t give a “hoot” about the middle class…just take a look at their response to Corporate America vs ordinary Americans…look at the HCR-legislation,HAMP- program,BP-Gulf Oil spill & Wall St-legislation,I can keep going & going but you get the picture…..very quick you will see,they don’t care about us,ordinary peoples.
President.
Boxturtle (Hillary would have been a better choice, dammit)
I think that’s a ridiculously broad and false statement. Do you honestly think there isn’t a single police officer in California, or the US, that wants to help instead of harm? Are all uniformed (or otherwise) law enforcement personal power-mad fearmongers? What is that bullshit?
Jeebus.
I recently ran across this blog posting from “Stoners Against the Prop 19 Tax Cannabis Initiative” and wondered what you all thought about it. They definitely use the “minors” portion of the law to gripe. They also claim MORE people will be prosecuted if the law passes. I don’t necessarily advocate their positions but, i wonder how authentic they are…
http://votetaxcannabis2010.blogspot.com/2010/07/why-pro-pot-activists-oppose-2010-tax.html
a couple of snippets:
“Myth #2: The initiative will keep young adults out of jail for using marijuana.
Fact: This initiative would put more young people in jail for pot. If it becomes law, any adult 21 or over who passes a joint to another adult aged 18-20 would face six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. [8] (NORML’s Web site reports that the current penalty for a gift of marijuana of 1 oz. or less is a $100 fine.[9])
Myth #8: Marijuana growers will be able to sell cannabis legally.
Fact: Currently, marijuana growers in California who have a medical recommendation can and do grow and provide marijuana legally. Entire economies in Northern California exist on this industry. However, the initiative would make it illegal for anyone to sell marijuana, unless they own a licensed dispensary.[16] (See Fact #9)
Many have suggested that growers could open marijuana-tasting venues, similar to wine-tasting at vineyards. A grower might have a chance of opening such a place, but only if he gave his product away for free, because selling it would be illegal unless he successfully navigated the notoriously difficult and prohibitively expensive process of obtaining licensure.”
and 17 more dubious positions…
They aren’t all.
Read here about Norm Stamper, Neill Franklin and Bruce Fein.
Not to mention the National Black Police Association coming out in favor of the initiative.
I have only drunk non-stamped likker once; it was moonshine from the Virginia mountains, brought to a campaign celebration in Richmond. We hadn’t much to celebrate, since the day was a spectacular loss, but that white lightning made it so absolutely no one cared.
For several days.
Never again.
/snip/
- from “The Government Can Use GPS to Track Your Moves,” Aug. 25, 2010
Kerlikowske was a douche bag when he was chief of police in Seattle. I see not much has changed.
Dunno about the rest of the country, but I can assure you that the NYPD stops kids (and adults) for blowing a joint all the danged time; apparently this practice is much more prevalent in minority areas, as well. I call BS, but then pretty much all the Prohibitionists are full of crap. You’d think we would have learned our lesson in the 1920′s….you’d think.
LOL I love it, rent seeking in action!
What’s behind this is that existing medical marijuana clinics are ripping off their customers by charging them black market prices for the cannabis they’re allowed to sell openly. If Prop 19 passes and commercial operations can step in to take advantage of economies of scale, patient capital and all other that other MBA stuff; prices will drop 90%, taking a lot of money out of the clinics’ pockets.
There is a group who do not want it legalized and you have run into them.
I ask them, “what about my freedom of religion?” and so far, I’m not aware that any of them have answered that. It does tend to shut them up.
They have a couple of good points, but my argument to that is put that on the ballot next time. I am especially disturbed about the prohibition against smoking pot around kids. I think that is religious discrimination and hope it will not hold up in court.
But then our courts are corrupt and everyone loses heart, so we lose again. Voting for an end to prohibition really is the only way to go.
Sister Lauren
THC Ministry
I am especially disturbed about the prohibition against smoking pot around kids. I think that is religious discrimination and hope it will not hold up in court.
Sister Lauren, unless children ingesting secondhand smoke is a sacrament (and even though the courts would probably say no dice), its hard to see a religious discrimination argument winning in court. You can drink a beer without the toddler at your feet tasting a sip of it, a bit harder to light up and keep the smoke out of her lungs. So wait till the kid’s asleep and go into another room, even studio apartments have bathrooms.
Beyond that the linked website isn’t taking anti-pot stance (which a religious right group would presumably take it), its taking an anticapitalism position, “We have seen this trend before in the United States. Our history is replete with small farmers being taken over by huge corporations”. I figured it was the medical marijuana clinics behind it, maybe it is the small farmers, who knows, but somebody is getting their income stream cut and thats who’s behind that website.
Cali drug Czar! You suck and your policies suck akin to the Taliban’s mentality, which should be extinct in America! The Vatican always lied in matters of a personal nature and choice, just like laughable drug czars. Masturbation does not cause blindness! Neither does the use of marijuana, along with all the other propagandized bullshit offered by behavior control freaks.
Like the Taliban, Cali drug czar lacks credibility and instead terrorizes as Taliban terrorizes based on backward thinking moralizing BULLSHIT!
Some of their arguments seemed downright plausible. Honestly, it has me doubting my immediate and unwavering support of Prop19. I hadn’t really thought there would be that many negative consequences to the legislation.
The website also claims it would be extremely difficult to change the legislation once adopted… so does that mean we are stuck with the flaws in Prop19?
I’d like to see a direct refutation of their points…
You can find several at the NORML Stash blog:
http://stash.norml.org/tossed-salad-dragonfly-de-la-luz-supports-misdemeanors-for-80-of-californias-cannabis-consumers
http://stash.norml.org/the-8-craziest-things-predicted-by-opponents-of-prop-19-marijuana-legalization-in-california
http://stash.norml.org/stopprop19-com-video-predicts-black-and-white-smoke-ominous-music-if-marijuana-is-legalized
Hope that helps :)
I think we really need to stop focusing on tax revenue gained from legalization, because it’s really an unknown. I actually fall into the skeptical category; I’m not sure that there are enough regular users to keep supplies moving off of store shelves; I believe that someone like me who might smoke once or twice a year would probably just ask a friend who grew some, rather than go to Wal Mart’s pot aisle. For one thing, hydroponically home-grown stuff would be way more potent and clean, I think; the laws of economics would rapidly drive the commercially-grown crap down to the lowest level of ditchweed that people would be willing to pay for.
But that’s speculation on my part, and I think we should be honest that ALL projections of tax revenues from legalization are speculation.
What ISN’T speculation, however, is the money the government could save by not locking up every two bit stoner with a weed plant in his closet. If we focused on the billions a year saved in enforcement costs, and the harm-reduction assets, I think we’d be on firmer footing.
The positions aren’t dubious.
Within 5 years, there will be more pot smokers in jail in California if this law passes than in the previous 10. Not to mention parents who have had their children taken away for the “abuse” of having been in the home while pot was smoked.
Medical mj is liberalization; this is the kind of stealth criminalization that has resulted in more and more victims of our drug war every year. The battering rams will be working overtime.
It is hard for me to believe that so many liberals are so accepting of this fascist Trojan horse. Just read the damned proposition!
These turds they call drug czars have axes to grind and speaking fees to earn from opposition…consequently, IMO they don’t have a valid voice in serious public discourse… another twenty years and they and their heirs wallets are fatter at public and private expense….in case you haven’t listened to them they are sickening to listen to…and Barry McCaffery needs some new dentures really bad….jus sayin
I would also be curious to know how much tobacco and booze each has consumed in their lifetime
ouroborous you should smoke marijuana more than once or twice a year and [Edited by Moderator. Do not insult other commenters. Disagree without being disagreeable]. Not enough regular users of marijuana to drive up tax revenue?!?! Marijuana is California’s #1 cash crop! More than grapes. They sell grapes at Wal-Mart. They sell oranges too. My neighbor has an orange tree, actually, there is one in every corner in Florida. If I need oranges though, I don’t jump my neighbors fence or ask him to spot me some. I go to Wal-Mart. If there wasn’t enough “regular” users of marijuana we wouldn’t be even having this discussion in the first place. There wouldn’t be any cartels either circumventing the law growing marijuana in state parks to meet the high demand of good quality bud in Cali.
Marijuana is the #1 cash crop in a number of states besides California. But it is the #1 cash crop in most all of these states due to the illegality. Legalize it, there goes the built in cost due to the prohibition aspect, same as the price of alcohol dropped after the end of prohibition.
There is a premium paid for the illegal substances that is over and above what the actual costs are.
But this argument wasn’t about cost, it was about demand. There is CLEARLY enough demand for this product to be stocked and sold in stores – hence taxed. If we make one dollar taxing marijuana that’s more than we make now.